When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
So I just started teaching women on this forum. Within weeks, the women started writing back, “It’s working! I can feel the difference!”
From that moment on, the forum became the hub of the Whole Woman Community. Unfortunately, spammers also discovered the forum, along with the thousands of women we had been helping. The level of spamming became so intolerable and time-consuming, we regretfully took the forum down.
Technology never sleeps, however, and we have better tools today for controlling spam than we did just a few years ago. So I am very excited and pleased to bring the forum back online.
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Best wishes,
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Founder
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Zelda
January 28, 2008 - 9:51pm
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Welcome ! - and you're right,
You found something special. This is a wealth of wisdom and spirit.
You will find the gamut here... and see how important and healing it is to have
true understanding and compassion. I've been wondering lately if a pre-requisite
for POP is being an utterly dynamic Woman. This place is thick with them.
Zelda
louiseds
January 28, 2008 - 11:07pm
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Exercise
Hi Chickenj
You'll probably find that a lot of the things that have been mentioned to you as 'Don't do's' will melt away in time. You are still a new Mum, and your body may take over 12 months to get back to pre-pregnant state. It has been stretched and rearranged over 9 months of pregnancy, and though it may feel normal now you will probably find it will keep changing towards norrmality for some time yet. You just need to be patient and kind to your body so you don't overdo it while the bod is healing.
Once you grasp the finer points of posture and understand how your body works from Christine Kent's book, Saving the Whole Woman, ed. 2 (available from the online shop part of the website) your body will tell you whether or not you can do a particular activity. I have cystocele, rectocele, and uterine prolapse which, after three years of WW, only bothers me just before a period and during the first couple of days. I can do everything I want to within reason, except for long periods of jarring exercise, and heaving rocks and big tree branches around. I have learned to keep my pelvic organs in the safe place over/in front of my pubic bone instead of over my pelvic floor, so when I do something strenuous they more or less stay where they are instead of descending and straining the damaged fascia which support them.
Once you can trust your own judgement of what your own body can do safely, the fear of damaging it further just dissolves, and you can confidently exercise and do a lot of things again, even if you have to move more consciously and accomplish tasks by a different pathway (eg using your brains instead of your brawn, and learning to ask for physical help which is often very difficult for a strong woman to do.) Life gets better with knowledge.
The ballet workout in Saving the Whole Woman is safe. Christine's women's yoga is safe. Most forms of exercise are OK for most women, but there may be particular types of movements that you won't ever do, or do differently, or use a different piece of exercise equipment or a softer surface etc. Once you understand the principles of guarding your pelvic organs you will know by gently trying things at a low level then extending the levels as you feel comfortable.
Almost all women doing Wholewoman work experience good and bad periods. You man experience further descent of your organs in time, which is a big shock, but it does seem to reach a point where it all stabilises. I can't tell you when that will be. I think I am there now, three years after finding WW and probably 25 years after the first signs of prolapse, but I am now very close to menopause.
Cheers
Louise
chickenj
January 29, 2008 - 12:43am
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Thanks Louise!
What a wonderful reply. Thank you so much for taking the time. I really am so relived to have found this site. I've never blogged before, as a matter of fact I just "lost" my original reply to you, lol. I do have Christine's book on order and it can't get here fast enough. I ordered the cook book too.I will resolve to be gentle. You know I've always beat the heck out of my body with running and biking, perhaps this is a hint from the universe that I should settle down and listen to my body a bit. What a concept, almost 40 and just getting in touch...better late than never!
With Love,
Chicken Mom
chickenj
January 29, 2008 - 12:48am
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Women Friends
Hi Zelda,
Thanks for that. I think the community that is here is a powerful thing. Becoming a mom sure does make one dig deep. Now I know why women will often ask someone if they have any children before starting a particular conversation. You really just don't know what you are capable of until a little person looks up at you with complete faith that you will provide all and every thing for them to survive. I've never felt such a bond nor have I ever felt as close to other women.
Chicken Mom xo
ATS
January 29, 2008 - 3:44am
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Hello Chicken Mom
Just wanted to say hi and welcome. I have been here just over 3 months now and am still learning so much. My prolapses are still finding their settling place so I am still taking things very easy.
All the ladies here are so great and have much advice and support to give. With regards to the exercise I hope that once you have given yourself time to heal that you can find something that you really enjoy or can go back to what you were doing albeit with a different approach.
Best wishes,
Anita
granolamom
January 29, 2008 - 8:59am
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hi chickenj
congratulations on the new baby & welcome to the site!
louise already gave you fantastic advice, so I don't have much to add.
only to repeat that 4 mo pp is still early, you're body will continue to change (in a good way) for the next few months. being active is good, but don't overdo it. 4 months is still early, especially if your baby is like mine and doesn't sleep much at night.
personally, when I was 4 mo pp I enjoyed walking outside. don't know where you are, if its warm enough to go out with baby, but fresh air was good for my spirits and walking (in good posture!) was good for my prolapse.
chickenj
January 29, 2008 - 10:20am
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Snow Walks
Hi Granola Mom,
Thanks for the reply.I feel like I've walked into a coffee shop to chat with a group of girlfriends.
You're right, baby is not sleeping very much at night. We're still up every 3 hours for feeds around the clock. I don't mind since the little guy is growing like a weed and seems happy.
I've been practicing the posture and will try it out on my next dog/baby walk. Walking has not been worry free but seems better with the posture.We are in Vancouver, Canada and HOLY SNOW. We rarely get the white stuff here on the west coast but it is coming down like a blanket at the moment.
CM :-)
chickenj
January 29, 2008 - 10:23am
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Hi Anita
Nice to hear from another newbie. Maybe we can share healing updates...as soon as i get going here with the posture etc. i can't wait for the book to arrive in the mail!
CM xo
ATS
January 29, 2008 - 4:36pm
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Oooohhhh Snow
I love the snow and the way it makes everything so quiet and calm after it has fallen, we don't get much in the UK. I used to live in Canada (Calgary, Alberta) and the winters were bitterly cold and LOTS of snow. I miss it ... sigh ...
Your post has made me yearn to go back.
chickenj
January 29, 2008 - 6:01pm
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Yearn No More
Well now don't go getting all misty about the snow. I had to walk to an appointment this morning with baby in a carrier on my chest, no 4 wheel drive on the stroller. I was supposed to go into the city this afternoon but I'm homebound. The train isn't even running! That's Vancouver...Calgary is currently -27 with a windchill warning.
Whoa!