When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
So I just started teaching women on this forum. Within weeks, the women started writing back, “It’s working! I can feel the difference!”
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louiseds
February 4, 2008 - 12:48am
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Welcome Joyce / pat on the back
Hi Joyce
Welcome to this wonderful group. I am sure that you will make some progress, as you have already ordered the book. The DVD is good because it walks you through an exercise routine which looks easy-peezy but is actually quite challenging. And it is good to see Christine's way of moving for yourself.
The book will give you all the information you need to understand the amazing way this lower abdominal area works, with all its organs and support structures, and how you can use it better to support itself. It truly is an amazing piece of machinery, this body of ours.
You probably feel a little vulnerable now, but once you understand how it all works you will feeling more confident yourself and you will soon be coaching others along. I have been here for three years now, and better than I was when I first came.
A pat on the back for all the newish members whom I now see offering support to others. You have all come a long way since you posted that first 'scared' post. Well done.
Cheers
Louise
joycesloan
February 4, 2008 - 2:36am
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Louise, Thank you so much
Louise,
Thank you so much for your encouragement. It is good to know there is some hope and I don't just have to continue to deteriorate - I couldn't stand for that.
I have many questions:
Is swimming a good exercise?
How often is it recommended to do the Whole Woman routine?
I have always picked up VERY heavy objects - probably part the cause.
Do I have to really limit what I lift? I love to garden and work and lifting seems to always be a part of it. Are grand kids to heavey? (little ones)
If it feels like the prolapse is bad on a particular day does taking a walk aggravate or help?
Any advice of any of these questions would be so greatly appreciated. I know you can understand. I look forward to getting this little condition under control.
gratefully,
Joyce
louiseds
February 4, 2008 - 5:47am
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Your questions
Hi Joyce
In reply to your questions, you will need from now on to undertake all exercise and activity mindfully, and keep WW posture as much as you can, all day, because it will guard your pelvic organs and help prevent further collapse as long as you are sensible about it. Of course you can swim, because it is whole body exercise, which is what we all need. Wholewoman routine? I guess do it as often as *you* would do any exercise routine. What are the guidelines? 20 minutes four times a week? 30 minutes a day? It probably doesn't matter, as long as you are doing some. Christine does all this workout stuff at the Wholewoman Center in Albuquerque. You might be nearer than I am, and able to go and do some sessions with her. I am about 15 hours flying time away!!. I'll get there in 2009.
I always find it is best to combine workouts, so I treat anything physical that I do as a workout, whether it is weighing sheep, gardening, swimming, dancing or whatever. (Sex?) And I make it as full body as possible, changing sides frequently, using all my legs and body to lift, etc. I don't really like exercise that only exercises one bit of me, and I think it is a bit pointless as our bodies were designed to use the whole lot and split the load between all the parts.
As long as you are mindful of what is going on down in your pelvic area you can do anything. Your organs will tell you if you are doing it wrong. You will either get fullness sensations at the time or later, but if you overdo it a bit your body will probably forgive you in a few days.
I figure that the body was designed for physical activity and labour, and you have to use all your tummy, back and leg muscles sometimes to do particularly heavy tasks. Just don't do more than one 'big rock' a day. If you are doing too much you will know about it. Just listen to your body and act accordingly. I have always been a bit of an independent amazon. I now rein my impulsiveness when it comes to big rocks. The presence of prolapse was enough to do that. If I can't think my way around it (which I usually can), I just wait or get help. Very frustrating, but DH and DS feel very strong and valued now for their big muscles.
Grand children need to learn to climb as early as possible. The little tikes will climb too high (and on inappropriate objects) regardless of how carefully we supervise them, so we may as well learn to harness that energy. You are also teaching them to be sensible about lifting heavy things themselves, by modelling it. Also, get down on their level and kneel with them or sit cross-legged on the floor with them. Just getting up and down repeatedly is great full body exercise! You will get much stronger in the legs.
Re walking on a bad day, suck it and see. Some women find it helps (in posture). Just listen to your body and learn from it. Once you know intuitively how to carry yourself it gets much easier, and you become much more physically self-aware anyway.
Sorry if this is all a bit general. What I am saying is seek to understand how your body works, work with it not against it, don't harm it further, and listen to how it responds. This is really the only way to know how far you can push it.
Cheers
Louise
joycesloan
February 4, 2008 - 10:54am
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Louise, You are a doll. Such
Louise,
You are a doll.
Such great answers to my questions Not general at all- one has to take responsibility and listen to our own bodies. Nice to know all my former activities don't have to be over. i really like getting my grandbabies to climb idea.
15 hours by plan?? Sounds like the southern hemisphere, aren't we lucky to have the internet?
Thank you again for all your help.
Blessings to you,
Joyce