When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
So I just started teaching women on this forum. Within weeks, the women started writing back, “It’s working! I can feel the difference!”
From that moment on, the forum became the hub of the Whole Woman Community. Unfortunately, spammers also discovered the forum, along with the thousands of women we had been helping. The level of spamming became so intolerable and time-consuming, we regretfully took the forum down.
Technology never sleeps, however, and we have better tools today for controlling spam than we did just a few years ago. So I am very excited and pleased to bring the forum back online.
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Christine Kent
Founder
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fullofgrace
March 25, 2005 - 10:42am
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RE: Help! I am undecided about Ceserean or Vaginal Bir
Meri,
See Christine's post about the problem with vaginal delivery is not that the muscles stretch too much, but that they are typically in a hospital setting not given enough time to stretch to their full capicity before the woman is forced to push the baby out. Also, Diane Lee discusses (as does Christine) it's the whole girdle of muscles, not just the pelvic floor muscles that must be rehabilitated after pregnancy. I don't know how many births you've had, but my first was a c/s, my second a vaginal homebirth (squatting position, instructed to breath-hold push, pushed for about an hour), and my 3rd a vaginal homebirth-- very gentle and controled completely by me and how my body told me to deliver the baby, most pushing done in "babypose" and birthed baby standing up, pushed about 10 minutes). I am much better almost 5 months postpartum after my third than I was at 8 months postpartum with my second--can only say that posture is the only difference between the two and resting a lot prior to birth and for the first six weeks after birth. I would never have another c/s unless it really was evident that my baby's health depended on it. I am so empowered and feel so healthy after my son's birth and I think the positive attitude and hope that I ahve gotten from the posture and knowing that I can control the prolapse was the most important aspect to my healing. Ultimately, only you can make the decision as to what you are most comfortable with. The problems with dr. is that most decisions they make are influenced heavily by fear: mainly fear of malpractcie. So they may promise you one thing and then once into the labor they change their mind and you end up with something else. Do you research well and try to make certain that you and your dr are on the same page. If not, do not hesitate--even at this late of a date-- to find a new caregiver. I wish I would have when I had my first daughter. I knew at about 7 mo that we weren't on the same page and that she was going to micromanange my birth and that I didn't want that but I was too afraid to switch providers. Don't make my mistake.
Christine
March 25, 2005 - 6:16pm
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RE: Help! I am undecided about Ceserean or Vaginal Bir
Dear Meri,
Well, I think the lesson here is that even though it
Becca
March 29, 2005 - 11:21pm
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RE: Help! I am undecided about Ceserean or Vaginal Bir
Hi Meri,
I don't know if it will help or not but I had a c-section with the birth of my first child and still suffered bladder and uterine prolapse. I am now facing the same choice as you are now with the birth of my second child (due june 28)and I believe I have decided to try a vaginal birth this time around knowing that c-section did not spare me the first time around and my doctor assures me that everything does drop more during pregnancy and will draw up some on it's own if I take good care of myself postpardom. I don't know if its true or not but my doctor believes you can give birth without ever pushing at all. He says if you are patient and let nature take it course, the baby will gently come down and out on it,s own without pushing and he believes this to be the gentlest and safest aproach to childbirth in case of prolapse. Unfortunately I cannot tell you first hand if it is true yet, but maybe you could research it or talk to your doctor about it.
congratulations, and I hope all goes miraculously well for you.
And of course a healthy and Happy Baby.
Becca
Christine
March 30, 2005 - 7:34am
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RE: Help! I am undecided about Ceserean or Vaginal Bir
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