Question about 2nd degree cystocele??

I have a 3rd degree Cystocele.

Kegels stopped the continual piddleitis problem. I use the sea sponge instead of a pessary as I control that and not a Dr...

Doctors are only taught their way - They know of no other way, or it doesn't interest them or something.

Sometimes you are holding someone else's heart whithin your hands. You can drop that heart & bruise it. You can squash that heart & hurt it. Or you can stomp on it & totally annihalate it. You stomp on that heart or bruise it. It can forever be changed.

first, to answer your question, yes, a cystocele can send a woman pee alot. could be you aren't fully emptying your bladder, try getting on all fours to pee at least once a day. this position puts the bladder and urethra at a better angle to facilitate complete emptying.

and also, wanted to address your last comment. You will read more about this when you get your book (go to the homepage, you can order it there), but prolapse is not due to muscle weakness. at least not weakness in the small perineal muscles. its a structural problem, when the posture isn't positioning the pelvic organs over bone, the forces within the body are liable to push on those organs. if they aren't over bone (pubic bone) they are over a hole (vagina) and that's when a prolapse can develop. the muscles there are tiny and not designed to hold a bladder, uterus and colon up. so while kegels can help prevent leaking (stress incontinence) they cannot reverse or prevent a prolapse. I doubt that's why your dr's didn't recommend exercise though. I doubt they know that much about prolapse.

anyway, welcome to the site. stick around and ask any questions you might have.

Hi,
The only reason I discovered I had a cystocele after I first had my baby was because I was constantly peeing (and feeling that heavy, draggy feeling.) But the inability to hold out was what bothered me the most. There are two types of incontinence: stress and urge. Urge incontinence is where the strength of the muscles to 'hold on' just aren't there.
The good bit is that it heals a great deal over time. I'm not sure how old your bub is but it took me about two years and I still can't wait all that long but it's much more manageable now. The ob explained to me that part of that was nerve damage from delivering my bub and nerves take at least six months to heal. If there is no nerve sensation then the body can't send the messages to the brain about when you need to pee.
The posture helps a great deal and like Granolamom, going down on all fours a couple of times a day at least to make sure you're completely emptying your bladder. I try and do that in the shower. Also, whenever I'm on the toilet I lean right forward with my heels up into the closest position I can to a squat.
You don't need to kegel yourself to death, in fact that might irritate it more, but for me I did find just doing a few each day helped. The firebreathing Christine does is also fantastic.
I also had medication when I first had problems. It's not a long term solution but it really helped me get through that period of getting a bit of control back. I was on a med called Detrusitol, and thought it's a drug it was a better option for me at the time than surgery and gave my body enough time to heal more on its own.
Also, a lot of it is brain controlled so I constantly say to myself 'I'm in control of my bladder' to retrain the brain's messages it thinks it receives from the bladder. The other part is just holding out a little bit longer each day before going and not going unless you need to (practising at home is easiest I find because if you do get in a rush to go you can get there quick).
That's probably way more info than what you need/want but I hope some of it's helpful.

Hi mom4ever

I do agree with mumwithone that it can take ages to get back urinary continence. However starting to pee continually after 2 years does sound a bit strange. I was looking at your earlier posts. It looks like you have had a few different challenges in your pelvic area over the last couple of years, but you don't say how any of them were resolved.

You also have not said if you are using Wholewoman posture at all?

Did you have any exploratory procedures or anything for the cysts and the cervical erosion? It also sounds as if you have received little help with learning how to deal with incontinence. Even after all this time you would probably find it useful to see a specialist pelvic floor therapist to get your pelvic floor assessed properly and to make sure that all the muscles that should be working are in fact working as they should. Then you will know what you are dealing with.

At any rate I would encourage you to get serious about teaching yourself Wholewoman posture which will reinforce any therapy that you receive from the physiotherapist by taking the pressure off the pelvic floor.

You might find that the physiotherapist does not agree with using Wholewoman posture, or cannot, or will not, understand the principles behind it. Many of us have had to deal with this dilemma and you can only decide for yourself how best to handle it. You may not have this difficulty at all.

The other possibility is that there is something else happening with your bladder, to cause you to need to pee all the time. the physiotherapist may point you in the direction of a urologist to get it checked out further if physiotherapy and Wholewoman posture do not work in resolving the incontinence.

Hysterectomy, it seems, is still offered to women to remove an organ that 'might become cancerous', in spite of the fact that it might not, as well. The woman is then left with no uterus and no ovaries, a lot of scar tissue and the possibility of incurable incontinence resulting from damage to nerves during the surgical procedure. ie, having an hysterectomy often causes more problems than it fixes, especially if it is done for removal of a non-existing malignancy. What happened about the cysts and the cervical erosion?

Hope you go well finding out exactly what the problem is. Call back with more questions.

Louise