Another question about incomplete emptying from a newbie

Body: 

Hi again;

I have another question. Has anybody had any success with chiropractic or other nontraditional medical routes? Since my doctors seem to have a grin and bear it approach? If they don't want to cut you open they want you to suffer in silence. Well, I don't mean I want to go around complaining because really who wants to hear about it? I can't quite decide whether bladder prolapse sounds more or less attractive than rectocele. I do have to say that if it were men whose penises were being practically turned INSIDE OUT and threatening to come down THROUGH THEIR URETHRA they would treat it more seriously you bet.

My health insurance does cover chiropractic - is this one way to go? It covers nothing else nontraditional but if it would really truly help I could cough up the $ somehow.

Thanks again!

Cynthia

Hi Cynthia,

I guess I have a rather jaundiced view of chiropractic in general. I mean, where have they been all these years that medical men have been telling us we have a big hole in the bottom of our pelvis that our organs sit perched above and ready to slide through?

Here comes the broken record part…

Prolapse is a structural problem in women and it is only through changing the structure that we are able to move these organs forward toward their natural positions. No one can do this work for us. I can show you how it is best accomplished, or a good chiropractor that gets natural posture can help you align your spine correctly. But only you can affect this change – hour by hour, day by day.

There certainly are other adjunct therapies that many find helpful: acupuncture; craniosacral work; Feldenkrais and Rolfing; and for my money, a good full-body massage.
We are so used to the notion of “getting fixed” but really, with prolapse only we can do the work.

Wishing you well,

Christine

Hi Cynthia,

I have been seeing a chiropractor for many years. I initially went because of lower back pain, but this also seems linked to POP and I have had huge improvement. It's hard to say for sure how much it's helped with my POP or not, but it makes sense to me in that chiropractic helps align the spine so that the correct nerve impulses are sent to the brain. Also, helps align the pelvis. When I first went I stood with one foot on each of a set of scales and I was 5kg heavier on one scale than the other. Now it's less than 1kg difference (an amount that's more usual.) Interestingly, the spot in the spine that was always 'out' for me is linked to the reproductive and pelvic organs. There's probably no harm in giving it a go anyway!

I have been seeing an osteopathic physician (D.O.---a real doctor---not a chiropractor) for several years (for conditions unrelated to pop) and found that she does not support the "tuck your fanny, flatten your tummy" approach to posture. She knows this is not consistent with the spinal column and how we are put together. She is open to any information I bring to her and totally agrees with the information in Christine's book (Yup! I took it with me!)

Since D.O.s are physicians (they can prescribe medicine--- some specialize and perform surgery----anything an M.D. can do---but, in my opinion, better!) insurance does cover the services they provide. While most folks think of osteopathic medicine as 'alternative' and/or complimentary---it really isn't. It just works from a different perspective than conventional western medicine (slice you open or give you a pill.) Bones, joints and muscles are the main focus---and they treat the WHOLE person, not just one part. They also believe in the body's ability to heal itself. (You can check out this website to learn more about it---www.osteopathic.org---) The way things work nowadays with a specialist for EVERYthing---we could be dying of a heart attack right in front of the specialist because he's only looking at/treating our big toe!!

I am totally "sold" on osteopathy and OMT (osteopathic manipulation treatment.) I've noticed that my pop symptoms are minimal to non-exsistent following OMT and I am easily able to do/keep the posture after she's 'adjusted' everything (my other conditions cause me to hold myself differently in order to do normal things and to avoid severe pain---pretty soon I'm "out" of the posture and also having pop troubles.) I feel like a million bucks when I leave her office. And like I said---insurance covers it all.

I feel so much better seeing someone who sees me/treats me as a WHOLE person (this IS the WHOLE WOMAN website!~smile~) She takes EVERYthing into consideration and it's so much easier to take care of myself when I have all my 'tools' in one neat little package, instead of getting a piece here and a piece there. I can't say enough good things about osteopathic medicine...

Peace,
S&G

Hi S&G

I agree with you that when there is some inflammation or an injury it does stop me using WW posture properly. When my body is feeling good, WW posture is easy and effective. I am experiencing quite a bit of body pain at the moment and it is making it harder for me to carry myself properly. I have to consciously do it; it is normally much more intuitive. When there is stiffness my body doesn't want to relax properly. Pain causes stress and stress causes constipation. So I am dealing several different body reactions.

I have been doing Feldenkrais which seems to have fixed the hips and lower back but now still have upper back, neck and shoulder stiffness which I felt was not responding to Feldenkrais. At Shambo's suggestion (which had also crossed my mind previously) I visited a podiatrist this morning for a biomechanics assessment. She told me that my right leg is about 1cm shorter than my left and explained what this would be doing to my gait and to my torso. I was impressed with the thoroughness of her examination and explanation, and it did make some sense of many of the injuries I have had in the past.

So she has taped my (high) arches and heels (both feet) for a few days to increase my ankle stability. If this helps I may get orthotics. Watch this space ...

Then, hopefully, I will be able to get some further progress with my upper back and neck, then hopefully my dicky wrist. I suspect this may all be to do with menopause and the drying up of lubrication throughout the body. Just a theory.

Anyway, I am not holding my breath expecting a miracle, but if I can improve several different factors my body may just stop complaining so much.

Louise

Hi Christine;

Thank you for your reply. Sigh. I should have known. I guess I am still waiting for the magic wand - oh, you have a prolapse and can't really pee freely anymore? Abracadabra poof! You're fixed!

So I have to do it myself? Empowering and scary at the same time. But the empowerment wins out over the fear and at least I'm free! And I have a pretty good bedside manner for myself, if I do say so myself. Which I am.

Thanks again

Cynthia