When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
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alemama
September 30, 2008 - 12:38pm
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london
hey. what is your story? how did you discover your prolapse? How old are you? Do you have kids?
There are things you can do to stabilize your prolapse and even reverse it. Have you looked at the homepage? The FaQs? Used the search function?
Research is vital. Understanding your anatomy is also vital to this Wholewoman work.
The wonderful part about this forum (aside from the support) is that you get to hear from real women who have been living well with prolapse for years.
I reversed my cystocele. I discovered it a little while after I found my rectocele- and was so upset. Then my cervix felt lower and lower and I freaked. But now my cervix is high and my cystocele is gone. I am still living well with the rectocele- staying mindful of what I eat and wear.
There is hope.
queenmother
September 30, 2008 - 12:43pm
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Hopeful
I'm no expert on any of this (just beginning to learn!) so what I am going to say is not scientific. Someone else on the forum can provide that part. But I do believe the body has some rather miraculous healing abilities, and there may be hope despite a tear. Just intuitively (again, not strong on the science yet) it seems like if you can maintain a position where parts of your body that are supposed to be together have some contact with each other, then spontaneous healing is not out of the question. If that is too far-fetched, then it may still be possible that other parts of your support system can learn to compensate for what has been injured. After all, people can relearn the most complicated intellectual processes after brain injury by rewiring neurons in the healthy parts of the brain! I know it's totally different, but I do think the body is built with redundancy. It's a cornerstone of engineering to allow the system as a whole to keep functioning if one part fails - and what is better engineered than US? :)
Keep your chin up. I've also been told that my anal sphincter may be hopeless if there are internal tears, but I'm trying to see what my body can accomplish on its own, with some loving guidance.
Sarah
alemama
September 30, 2008 - 12:46pm
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now I see
so you are 26 with one child. A two year old. You tore minimally at the birth and did not have an extended pushing phase (found that on another thread). This all looks great to me (hey- not that I am any expert)!
Get into the posture and lifestyle of the Wholewoman and you are going to be fine. Check out Nauli. It has really helped me reverse my prolapses.
granolamom
October 1, 2008 - 10:07pm
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hopeless tears
I've got lots of old perineal tears (assuming lots of fascial tears as well) that never healed. never been stitched, just left gaping. I tore up and laterally with my first birth, I think it healed a bit and then tore open during my second birth with additional tearing downward. none of that healed.
my cystocele is also 'leaning' towards one side, I've assumed this was consistent with my lateral tearing (same side), and also, that was the side of the hand the mw used during my second birth to hold the cervical lip open so I could get my ds out. fun memories.
I agree, that most of the tearing is not going to heal, not at this point, not for me. if I dwell on that, yes, it is depressing. but you can STILL accomplish some degree of stabilization and possibly reversal EVEN WITH THE TORN TISSUE. first, get the posture down pat. the posture forces your bones and breath to do the bulk of the work in terms of supporting your pelvic organs. it also enables your fascia to revert to its original shape (like blocking a wool sweater). yes, I know there are tears, so maybe your fascia will never be exactly how it once was, but it can to some degree be reshaped.
next, start strengthening the muscle groups that will help support your pelvic organs from above. forget whatever you know about trying to hold them up from below. firebreathing, the plie workout and best of all (for me) nauli, will help you do that.
and learn what to avoid, like crunches, constipation, tight restrictive clothing,etc
there is a definite mourning process that accompanies prolapse. this is normal and unavoidable, because its a real loss. so I'm not going to tell you not to get depressed, but try try try to keep some hope in the back of your mind. because we've all been where you are. I've got tears and they will never heal and that stinks. but my prolapse HAS gotten better (not as dramatically as alemama's but still). I am 99% asymptomatic. life is good and not at all limited by this.
so do all your research (and thanks, by the way, for sharing, I find it interesting!) and come back here for a huge dose of hope.