When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
So I just started teaching women on this forum. Within weeks, the women started writing back, “It’s working! I can feel the difference!”
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kathy
June 9, 2005 - 9:08am
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I am 59 and I have a prolapse uterus. I started the exercise and
posture a few months ago. It helps quite a bit. However the
acceptance of the condition is half the battle. Once you stop
thinking how unlucky you are to have a prolapse and begin looking
for ways to treat the problem you feel good about yourself and you
begin to feel better. If you real the posts of the other ladies
on this site you will find a wealth of information on how to treat
you prolapse.
At this point surgery is not an option for me. The only problem with
my uterus is that it is moved down a little. Cutting it out just
does not feel like the correct response.
Good luck
Kathy
sybille
June 9, 2005 - 9:23am
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My last period was at age 55; my universal prolapses were diagnosed in 2000 and I have been working this program for a little over a year. Surgery is also not an option for me and I feel as long as I maintain the correct posture, surgery may never be entertained.
Granted, our bodies do change, but we can accomodate to that change. We are never going to be physically in our 20's, 30's or even 40's again and I view this as I view any handicap - something to incorporate into our daily lives, much like anyone else having a physical deficit. I also wear this as a "badge of honor", having birthed four children. And it is okay, really okay.
If, for anything else, I am walking taller and prouder, something I never had done. I think I grew an "inch."
Sybille
carolb
June 10, 2005 - 4:07am
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Kathy-
I like the part about accepting your condition being half the battle--it's so true. I've been reading the forums and it does help a lot hearing what others are going through and what's working for them. I think the hard part is not knowing whether I'll be able to hike long hikes again or lift my granddaughter again. Surgery is definitely not an option for me either. I'm so glad I found this website because I was just about to schedule surgery -- I needed to do something and I didn't know about other options. Being a teacher it just made sense to do it during the summer when I have the time off to recuperate. But that little voice kept telling me to keep searching for more information and I'm so glad I found this website and didn't rush ahead and do something foolish. Thanks for the support.
mare7395
June 10, 2005 - 7:27am
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Hi CarolB
You mentioned "hiking long distances" in your post. What distance would you like to hike? I hiked the Grand Canyon last spring, that was around 18 miles and took the greater part of the day. Every Saturday I hike the 7.5 miles of Waldo Canyon. As I am 64 and have "dryness" I use a preparation suggested by "Jade and Pearl" called "Bodacious Body Butter". It is not messy and really helps.
For anyone who may be interested, I discovered that if you bend way over when blowing your nose (I have allergies so I blow a lot) it does not seem to put pressure on your pelvic floor. Has anyone else tried this? It sure beats crossing your legs to help cut off part of that downward push. ;-)
Christine
June 10, 2005 - 8:25am
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Yes...that's the trick for sneezing, too...just bend over at the waist a little to place the organs over the pubic bone.
sybille
June 10, 2005 - 8:32am
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Bending way over does help with many things, but I also find sitting on the "sit bones" (primarily the back of upper thighs with a slight curve in the lower back and upper body straight with shoulders down) a way of doing it also. No feeling of anything inside shifting.
I also think that having the three prolapses forms a natural pessary. They seem to be leaning on each other to keep from making an exit.
Picking up grandchildren? I have five and one more on the way. Bend down to their level or sit. A few tweaks in one's daily living will accomodate most situations. Besides, most children appreciate the eye level contact. Also - "I have a bad back" is easily understood.
Walking? No limit. I will wear my v-brace on that one - more for the emtional support, in case... The "in case" never has been an issue.
Sybille
carolb
June 10, 2005 - 9:01am
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I feel a lot better hearing from all of you. We're getting ready for our vacation and we always like to hit the national parks and hike around 10 miles a day. I'm impressed you did the Grand Canyon, Mare! As for my granddaughter I do get down on the floor or in a chair at eye level with her, but the "not so bright" thing I did in March when I was first aware of my prolapse was lift her in and out of her crib with the railing up. Duh--I knew better than to do that. Every in and out of the car, grocery cart, etc. was a strain too. Now that she's 1 1/2 so she's much more mobile and I know what I'm doing now. When I see her again (it's hard being a long distance grandma, but I have managed to see her more than I every dreamed) I'll know what to do, how to do it, and what not to do!
The bending over to sneeze or blow noses--great! I wish all women could and would learn about these things. Most of the things we can do are very simple. Since people tend not to talk about these problems with each other most women don't have any information. Even books on menopause don't mention this.
carolb
June 10, 2005 - 9:20am
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Sybille-
I like the suggestion about the "sit bones." Things that we can do out in public without looking too ridiculous are great. The exercise on all fours is not something I would do at school, but sitting like you suggested works! I love all your matter-of-fact kind of messages.
mare7395
June 10, 2005 - 12:09pm
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When I mentioned "bending way over" in my post, I was actually almost in a closed V position while still standing. Christine is correct, you don't need to bend that far, just tilting forward helps.
BaNa48
June 10, 2005 - 12:36pm
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Hi Mare, I liked that idea! Bending to blow or cough would be a lot better than crossing your legs. I'm going to try that next time! Thanks, Nancy