When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
So I just started teaching women on this forum. Within weeks, the women started writing back, “It’s working! I can feel the difference!”
From that moment on, the forum became the hub of the Whole Woman Community. Unfortunately, spammers also discovered the forum, along with the thousands of women we had been helping. The level of spamming became so intolerable and time-consuming, we regretfully took the forum down.
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goldfinch1
June 7, 2008 - 11:40am
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Ah-h-h-h-h. . . . . .
Just ran and got my sitz-bath out of storage. I'm home alone today, and might just give this a try. I know how soothing the very warm water feels - and it's easier than clinbing into the bathtub. I think I'll start with just 1 teaspoon of salt.
Love, Goldfinch
'Life is not holding a good hand; Life is playing a poor hand well'
Clonmacnoise
June 8, 2008 - 10:07pm
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Fighters and Salt
Christine,
Don't fighters use salt to toughen their faces? Isn't salt used to toughen the gums? I've heard this all my life. Would saline help restore this area?
I'll ask my son about the sea and the salt because his job in the Navy was to make fresh water out of salt water.
Just thinking,
Judy
alemama
June 10, 2008 - 1:29pm
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oh la
don't think your skinny dipping swam right by me you bold thing........
AnneKane
October 4, 2008 - 3:56pm
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carrot pessary for prolapse
Hi
thanks so much for filling us in on that, and i can see where you're coming from with wanting to just keep some things to yourself from time to time.
The salt water bathing sounds really interesting. I also say something recently in a very old book about making a pessary by filling a muslin bag with shavings of carrot. Like into a sausage and wearing overnight. But i'm quite lazy these day's on testing new things. I know carot is astringent and high in vitamin e (i think), so maybe something going on there. If someone tests this would love to know the findings!
I did take a bullit for you all (kidding!) with testing out an acupuncture point between the legs a few monthts ago and i'll fill you in on that in the lifestyle section k.
take care Christine
xx
anne
granolamom
October 7, 2008 - 6:50pm
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carrots
ha, anne, I read the subject line and first thought you meant to use a whole carrot.
but a bag of shredded carrot, now that's interesting.
I'm way to lazy to try it myself, but am oh-so-curious to hear all about it if anyone does try it.
alemama
October 7, 2008 - 7:00pm
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ha
I considered trying it- but the lazy in me took over as I visualized actually doing it. so who is going to do it? I am also curious.
Christine
October 7, 2008 - 7:06pm
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gardening for prolapse
Anne - it's so good to hear from you! You've added so much to the forum over the years and always come up with such amazing stuff. Actually, one of the first mentions of prolapse I ever saw on the Web - when the Web was very new - was a site from India that suggested going on a raw fruit fast for a week and also utilizing this muslin bag filled with grated carrots.
I suppose the vegetable pessary idea could get pretty interesting - frankly, I'm a bit surprised Louise hasn't invented it yet. lol!
Please stay in touch, Anne, and best of luck with your work.
Christine
Mae
October 7, 2008 - 9:17pm
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I nominate Louise!!
Louise is the perfect candidate for the carrot test! She did a Great job on the trial and error test with Replens. And the details about her experience with Replens and sex were very interesting, although almost X-rated!
Yes, I nominate Louise. All those in favor say Aye!
Regards,
Mae
Christine
October 7, 2008 - 9:43pm
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Aye-yai-yai!
yai-yai!!
:D Christine
louiseds
October 7, 2008 - 9:47pm
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Who is going to do it?
How about Mae? Or Blue? They are always up for new and interesting things. Then we listen to their banter about it. ;-)
It's called Wholewoman Radio!
L
EDIT: Gmom, I regard carrots as almost in the category of bananas as being the ultimate in fast food. When I get big, fat, crisp carrots there is no way I will do anything else with them other than a quick peel and munch them as a snack. They're lucky to make it as far as the wok. I don't know whether your vote for me was to get me to try the grated carrot pessary, or to endorse my call for Mae and Blue to come out of cyberspace for their slot on the airwaves? Anyway, I'm off to the fridge for my big, orange, mid-morning, carrotty snack. Eeeyy, what's up Doc?
You'll recognise me next time I'm in The States. I'm the one with orange stains around my mouth.
Cheers
Louise
granolamom
October 7, 2008 - 10:17pm
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Aye!
another vote for louise.
louiseds
October 7, 2008 - 10:56pm
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Choosing your carrots
Maybe this should be in the Food Forum?
Length is not important with a carrot.
Thickness per se is not important either.
The important factors in choosing carrots to ensure that they are juicy, crisp and sweet
follow. These instructions apply only for carrots to be taken internally by the oral root, not the vaginal root.
There is a certain astringency in old tough carrots that may be beneficial for POP but there is no place for astringency in my mouth. I had some very unpleasant experiences with big, tough, bitter, fibrous carrots in kindergarten, which caused me to have to sit at the table inside chewing these horrible things small enough to swallow with my last gulp of milk when my friends had already finished theirs and had already gone out to play. I wonder how many places there are in a kindergarten classroom where you could shove a stick of bitter carrot so you can go out in the sandpit?
I have henceforth devoted part of my life to finding only the best carrots on offer for human consumption. These are the rules.
A good carrot is quite smooth. There is no place in my fridge for a carrot that looks like it has been through the bonsai process. If it looks old, it probably is.
It has square shoulders that come up above the bit where the leave sprout from. This means it has grown quickly, so it will be high in sugar content.
It should have no new green growth, which would indicate that it had been pulled a long time ago, so was no longer high in sugar content.
The bit where the leaves sprout from should be narrow in relation to the diameter of the shoulders, which shows that it is physiologically young, ie it is not old enough to have grown many leaves. It will also have a narrow core compared to the outside bit.
The bottom of the root can be quite pointy. It seems to depend on the variety. Shape, apart from the shoulders, doesn't matter much, as long as the shoulders are not too slopey. There are lots of varieties, especially if you buy from specialty seed merchants and grow your own. Baby carrots from the supermarket can be a trap, cos they might be just stunted and old, instead of young and tasty. Look for the narrow shoot diameter relative to the shoulder diameter.
You see, there is more to carrots than meets the eye, but there is no way I am trying a carrot pessary. That would be so wrong! :-)
L
Mae
October 8, 2008 - 9:07am
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You Are What You Eat!
Careful Louise! Too many carrots might change the real you!
Did you know that Flamingos are actually white birds? They get their orange colored feathers from their diet of crustaceans and algae, which is very rich in carotenoids. Carrots contain carotenoids, hence their name!
Can carotenoids also change the color of Louise? According to the research I did on this very important issue..the answer is yes!
Caroten is fat soluble. It dissolves in oil, but will not dissolve in water. Therefore, Louise cannot excrete the color in sweat or urine! She will store it in her body fat until it can be broken down.
Therefore, if Louise eats too many carrots, she will turn yellow or orange. Next time you hear about someone on a diet of carrots sticks, check out the color of the whites of their eyes. The color change is most obvious there.
As you can see, I did my homework on this WW Carrot Craze we seem to have going here. However, I was unable to find any info on the effects of color change in the vaginas of women sporting a Carrot Pessary. Further research will have to be done before we can put this test to fruition!
Conclusion: If anyone sees an Orange Munchkin running around Oz...it's a good bet it's our own Louise!
Warm regards,
~Mae
Christine
October 8, 2008 - 10:05am
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sometimes a carrot is just a carrot
SO clever, Mae (I laughed and laughed), and honestly, Louise, I will never gloss over my carrots again – but even the best carrots available to us do not remotely measure up to your standards! What a trip…I think we're in need of a little entertainment around here! lol (lots of love) Christine
Blue
October 8, 2008 - 2:07pm
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A carrot by any other name, eh?...
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Thanks for the carrot tips, Louise! I'll never scout them out quite the same when making the produce circuit::: smooth, square-shouldered, sweet...
Now, as for the low-down on the carriage of carrots?...Call me 'carotenoid', but while I'll be the first to bow to their nutritional side... when it comes to pessaries, I must say I'll never wear, carrots whole or grated - No carrots ever there!
Besides, given Mae's rooting out the data on carrots' affects on color, I'm pretty sure that if you mix Blue with orange, you end up with some off-color shade of 'blorange', and that is so not my color!
Thanks for thinkin' of me, though, sisters! = : D
carrotingly,
~♥Blue