Nauli

if you got a "whoa" then just reach right in and see if you can feel any difference at all-
I always know when I do something stupid and make mine worse- just by feeling

Hi Blue,

Good for you for trying! One never knows when she might stumble on the thing that works best for her.

I too have had no luck with the vacuum breathing. Can't seem to get the hang of it. Too bad since it seems to work so well for others.

I continue to have success with the mega doses of vitamin C and not letting myself get dry. I take about 1,000 mgs. of Vitamin C a day (more if I feel a need) and alternate between WholeWoman balms, Replens and KY for dryness. I have found this to be the best for me. Can't remember if you gave the Vit. C a try or not. But, keep on keeping on and try not to get discouraged. Think back to our sponge "trials" and how we had Louise peeing in her knickers laughing so hard! That'll put a smile on your face!

Hugs,

~Mae

Blue,
I am not having any luck with vacuum breathing or the exercises. I too feel my bulge is bigger after trying them. I think I am doing them right, I have studied the DVD and read the book cover to cover but maybe I am being too impatient and want things to get better now! Somedays staying in posture seems to help, other days it doesn't. My peri hormones are all over the place now so maybe that's the problem too. Mae, I am taking 4,000 mgs. of Vitamin C daily for a month with no help. Does it take more time or am I too far gone? I am fearful that things will just keep getting worse as my estrogen gets lower and lower going into menopause. I am feeling sorry for myself today, forgive me. I couldn't play with my granddaughters last night because my proplapse was bothering so much, so I am having a pity party this morning. I must remember others are suffering so much worse so I should shut my mouth! Connie

Hi Connie,

Ahh...pity party!! We all have them, we don't like them, but maybe it's not such a bad thing. When I come "home" from a pity party I find that I'm over it and ready to work even harder at keeping my prolapse at bay. Secret is not to party too long! lol!

I am so sorry the Vit. C isn't working for you. I would think it should be working by now if it was going to...but maybe give it a while longer. Careful with your expectations though. My prolapse is in no way gone, it's just not buldging out of my body, nor can I usually tell it's even there. When it becomes noticeable to me (seeing or feeling it), I push everything back in place, pop another C and in a very short time I've forgotten about it again.

My prolapse is a cystocele...not sure what yours is. The only success stories I've heard with the Vit. C come from people with cystoceles. Maybe it doesn't work as well on the other prolapses?? I don't even know why it works, so unfortunately, I am no expert. Could be it's all in my mind, and the minds of the others who say it works, but that's O.K. too...as long as it works!

So sad about not being able to play with your granddaughters. Not sure if you were afraid of making the prolapse worse, or if it was painful. I do whatever I want with my grandkids, and pretty much everything else, trying to stay in posture as much as possible (although that's very hard for me) figuring all will go back to "normal" later on. It helps to remind myself that if I'd had the surgery I wouldn't be able to lift anything over 8 (or is it 10..not sure) pounds. That would be torture for me. My daughter is having her first baby in May and I am sure he will be at eight or ten pounds very quickly, if not right away as big babies run in our family.

Well, I hope you and my friend Blue are "home" from your pity parties. Just know that we're all in this together and we all have good and bad days. Just keep trying anything and everything within reason, of course. What works for some may not for others, but I feel sure you'll both find what's best for you to make this more managable!

Hugs,
~Mae

Can I come Connie? I could give you a hug and some optimism, wrapped up in pretty paper with a bow on top and a cup of tea, and a pretty cupcake. Sorry, don't want to ruin your party with joy.

I have not done much nauli or firebreathing, but use my own upside down jiggling technique to get my organs back to where they need to be. When my cystocele is really big and low after strenous exercise or doing something stupid for a long time I sometimes have difficulty in getting it to return to where the bladder should be. It just does not want to move up! I cannot get the air into my vagina which is the signal that everything is back where it belongs. I visualise it as being kind of stuck the wrong side of the hole in the fascia between my vagina and bladder The only way around it is to wait and try again later, when I have moved around some more. I think inversion is the major tool when mine gets like this. Eventually, it just goes clatter, slither, plop (from Wind in the Willows?) back to where it should be. I then bear down slightly to remove most of the air then unfurl like a fern leaf into WW posture, leaving a vacuum that helps keep it all there so I can move it forward in posture. Aha! The last step (Which might be better as the first step!) is to lie down and apply liberal amounts of Bliss Balm to my vulva and inside my vagina so there is reduced friction between the anterior and posterior walls of my vagina. I think the walls of the dry peri/menopausal vagina kind of stick together crookedly when the cystocele is low and prevent free movement in the pelvic cavity. Well, that was some story, wasn't it? Who else would read this far?

Just keep trying. You will get it.

Cheers

Louise

I did not pee in my knickers!! But I nearly did! I think it's time for another topic to make us laugh.

What about some ideas for conceptual artworks about prolapse?

What about alternative uses for pessaries that don't work? Door knockers, perhaps? Mobiles? Christimas tree decorations? I am sure Martha Stewart would have some nifty ideas. Perhaps I should email her and ask?

And what does one do with the rest of the tampons in the packet that you can't use? Bury them in pot plants to absorb and conserve water? Earrings? Bird scarers for fruit trees? Just watch them expand when it rains! My DD certainly isn't interested in using my redundant stock, even if they are still hygienically-wrapped - TMI for her, but I am sure that having a baby will cure her of that sort of prudery one day. I can't wait! >:-)
Oh, Granolamom. The Bliss Balm as hair frizz tamer didn't work. Smelt lovely but I know now that even Bliss Balm has its limitations. ;-)

And I haven't even had my daily cup of coffee yet. Time to put the kettle on, then sit back and wait for all your creative juices to start running.

Cheers

Louise

Ha! Good try Louise. We could all use some laughs..that's for sure. However, those were not creative juices flowing when Blue and I were doing the sponge trials! We were just being us! Scary eh? Nice that we kept you entertained though!

I got a good laugh out of your tampon suggestions. I have a whole package of Sport tampons (minus one that I used in yet another failed experiment!) in my cabinet. My DD is pregnant so she can't use them. I am 61 years old and have been through menopause for years, so giving them to anyone else would pretty much require an explanation that I don't really want to go into. Some of your ideas are intriguing, but I think I'll just tuck them away with the many baby items I've been collecting and pass them on to DD when she can use them.

As for my pessary...I've hidden that away where I can't see it. Just looking at it makes my insides hurt! No way do I want to deal with that thing in any manner!

Nor do I want to deal with the Sea Sponge that you had me sew a string on after I lost it up there somewhere one day. The string worked well for keeping track of the sponge, but the sponge was so irritating that it ended up hidden away in the drawer with the pessary!

Ahh..the trials and tribulations of prolapse! I'm sticking with the posture, good diet, exercise, lubrication, sex (nature's pessary) and mega doses of Vitamin C.

Enjoy your coffee..or slumber. It's morning here and I am guessing it's night time in Oz!

Warm regards,

~Mae

"... and God, if I die before I wake, I pray dear Lord my soul to take (and put all my secret womens gadgets in my soul's pocket and take them too, so my grieving children will not have to be confronted by them while they are looking fruitlessly for my non-existent fortune)".

Goodness me, we do have to be open with our families about the gadgets we collect.

Ah well, a woman needs to have a little mystery about her.

L

ps. But seriously, WHAT WILL THEY THINK? I won't be around to worry about it, that's for sure!

I can only imagine what will be going through their minds..."gosh, I guess I never really did know mom." I would especially like to see their faces when they find the Kegelmaster...maybe I'd better let them in on that, or they might think I'm the wild woman I really am, but keep under wrap! LOL!

~Mae

Actually, I'm more worried about the vibrator and silk g-strings.

L

You naughty lady you! Sounds like a pretty wild time down there in Oz! Gotta keep the Munchkins happy! You go girl!!

~Mae