When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
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Christine
June 17, 2009 - 11:29am
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exercise
Hi Judith,
From where I stand now, I wouldn’t recommend them. None of the exercises are detrimental, but they also don’t build a bomber system of joints and muscles around natural posture. Here’s a little story:
Last Friday evening my daughter took me wildcrafting in the mountains east of our city. She is doing an herbal apprenticeship and has already learned so much! It’s such a joy to watch her smell this one and scratch that one to determine their exact identity. The gorgeous ponderosa pine forest we went into burned two years ago, which was a tragedy for the people who lived there. But the wild flowers have never been more lush - we came home with huge baskets of them and are turning them into dried bouquets for our shop. I digress.
As we hiked up and down steep hillsides sometimes fast, sometimes slowly, I was reminded how great it is to be in my late fifties and have my joints in better condition than perhaps they have ever been. My body is incredibly strong and stable and this is 100% due to the WWWorkout.
I had a tough winter in which I experienced very difficult personal issues and had whooping cough to boot. I spent most of it in bed during which time I got terribly out of shape. Spring came and with it a whole new energy so I opened up my studio to morning workouts again. It didn’t take long to rebuild what I had lost.
The Workout is based in classical dance, but it is different in that we never stray from WW posture. Bare feet are firmly planted on the floor and the weight distributed evenly between three points on the bottom of the foot. The weight-bearing joints are always correctly aligned and we work muscles (hard!) from there. I can tell you that the body it builds is strong, graceful, and very stable. I have no intention of turning the world of prolapsed women into ballet dancers. This is not ballet - but ballet, which is about 500 years old, had to get the basics of human movement right in order to take dance to the heights that they have. They got it right and their most basic moves, coupled with WW posture, just work to create proper human shape and organ support.
I have written the whole thing out in the blue book, which I know can be difficult to follow, so we’ve committed to putting the Workout on dvd by the end of August.
:) Christine
Judith
June 17, 2009 - 12:49pm
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first edition
Thank you so much for replying Christine, I know that you're busy. The reason that I ask is that, at the moment, everything I do seems to aggravate my symptoms, even walking, which has never been the case before. I suspect that I may have a urethrocele now - there is definitely something outside the anterior vaginal entrance and it's extremely sensitive - even touching it makes it seem to swell and get heavier and if I touch it it's followed by the urge to pee. Anyway, I remember that the exercises from the first book were on the mat and using a chair, so I think I might be able to handle those more. I'm just nervous in case you've now discovered that they could be detrimental. I love the ballet workout, just can't seem to do it without getting worse - I really hope that this is purely temporary. I'm feeling rather discouraged, wondering whether ankylosing spondylitis has caused too much flattening of the lumbar curve and that i won't be able to sort myself out - that makes me feel rather desperate as my life has become quite limited at the moment, very uncomfortable. My cranial osteopath assures me that I have more lumbar curve than I realise, because it's actually the upper (is it thoracic?) curve that's flattened and it's an optical illusion, so I'm clutching at that straw. Anyway, I always enjoyed the 1st edition exercises and only discontinued them because my physio (spinal) gave me an extensive set to do to mobilise the spine and I just couldn't fit everything in. Anyway, thanks again Judith xx PS my balms arrived - lovely!
goldfinch1
June 17, 2009 - 6:27pm
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DVD
Hi Christine:
I received my First Aid for Prolapse DVD in the mail today and can't wait to find quiet time to watch it. I just read your post, however, and am a little confused. You wrote "...we’ve committed to putting the Workout on dvd by the end of August." I thought that all of the exercises were on the DVD that I just purchased. It's really the main reason why I bought it. (With my DH still out of work since last October, I didn't have the money until now to buy it). Are there more beneficial exercises which you are now going to put on a second DVD?
louiseds
June 17, 2009 - 8:25pm
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the optical illusion
Important point that, Judith. I keep telling people to maintain their lumbar curve, but lifting the ribcage flattens the thoracic curve and actually makes the lumbar curve larger in diameter and flattens it. What really happens is that the sacrum becomes more horizontal. Anyone else got input on this?
L
Christine
June 17, 2009 - 11:14pm
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clarification
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Hi Goldfinch,
We were referring to the exercise program in the old book (STWW 1st ed.), not the new dvd. The workout program in the second edition of the book was never put on dvd, although many elements are the same.
I love the workout in FAFP, but let’s face it - it’s a pretty intense and complicated dance routine. The WWWorkout will be much easier in terms of “moves”, but just as vigorous.
Hugs,
Christine