When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
So I just started teaching women on this forum. Within weeks, the women started writing back, “It’s working! I can feel the difference!”
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louiseds
August 19, 2009 - 8:11pm
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Inaccurate anatomy
Hi Christine
The illustration at top left is probably accurate for the woman who slouches or has modern Pilates-style posture. It illustrates perfectly what does happen to the uterus in the absence of significant cystocele and rectocele, if indeed that is possible.
Like so many things in modern medicine, doctors are now trained in abnormality, not normality. I had a discussion about this at a Photoshop course I was doing. One of the other participants was a technician who prepared online materials for lecturers in medicine. He was learning about enhancing medical images of diseased tissue electronically, for purposes of illustration. He told me that, eg students do not learn about normal skin. They only learn about diseases of skin. I guess this follows through to other parts of the body. And I guess that if your skin is normal you don't need to see a doctor about it, so why learn about it. Wha???
Likewise, maybe doctors' attention is never drawn to normal pelvic anatomy. Perhaps they don't study it for its normal function, only for the things that can go wrong with it. Following on from that, probably most of the women who visit them with POP have very poor posture, so of course they have POP. If I went to a doctor to show them my WW posture, they would scratch their heads and wonder what I was doing there, and charge me all the same! Perhaps gynos looking at POP wouldn't know normal pelvic anatomy if they fell over it!!! LOL!
That makes a doctor's waiting room a bad place to be if you have POP and want help for it. It is like expecting KFC to fix your indigestion!
Louise
Oceanblue
August 19, 2009 - 8:34pm
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Thank You Christine!
I am thankful that you stand up to and speak out against gynecologists for what you feel should be rectified.
You are the best, as you do go to all of the effort of being thorough with your tremendous amount of in depth research, something that most gynecologists either do not care to do, or have the time to do.
Mega Hugs for you!
Oceanblue
Christine
August 20, 2009 - 7:58am
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the importance of understanding our true nature
Thank you for your kindness and appreciation, Oceanblue! This information is far more important than it looks at first glance. Louise, I appreciate your comments - but the first one is especially important for what I am trying to elucidate.
Precisely my point is that the pubic bones are Never in that four o’clock position and Always in the six o’clock position. The difference between a completely raised tailbone and a completely tucked under tailbone is that the pubic bones and perineum slide ever so slightly forward - but never UP into that four or five o’clock position.
Women can feel this themselves by placing two fingers just inside their vagina and hooking them over their pubic bones. Bend over at the waist, then slowly come back up to see that the horizontal pubic bones, which are underneath you like straps of a saddle, never move from that position! The human pelvis is horizontal - just like the butt of a horse - and only through our pronounced lumbar curve do we stand up. This means all that business about forward and backward pelvic “tilt” is nonsense. The pelvis is Always tilted all the way forward. Therefore, the motion of the ilia must be more in-and-out like an accordion than forward and back. In this way they lock and unlock the sacrum.
When women are given these sorts of inaccurate illustrations it subtly programs them to believe they have crazy anatomy perched over a soft tissue hammock with a hole at the bottom. Trying to explain natural posture and the futility of kegels to women who have the wrong impression of their anatomy is very difficult. To them (and all of gynecology and PT), it makes the most sense to suck up and in as strongly as possible in hopes of strengthening the “floor”. In reality there is no floor but only a thin, sinewy wall of muscle at the back.
Correcting women’s perception of their internal anatomy is of urgent importance so they can see their body for what it truly is: an ingenious design where the organs are held naturally forward and well away from the pelvic outlet. The only effort required is to pull into our natural shape.