Re Identifying the prolapse types - my experience

Hi all

I just thought i'd let you all know a bit about the various things i've been told by the medical profession.

This is basically about what i've learnt about mis-diagnosis and some little pointers i picked up that might help someone else find out what it is that we actually have going on "down there" :)

(This was a constant sourse of confusion for me and is only being cleared up now!)

I'll try be brief.

Four years ago felt mild leaking when i coughed and sneezed.Felt a strange mass in the vagina.

Frst female doctor told me it was impossible i had any form of prolapse as "i had no children".

Six months later told by my gynecologist in europe that "i had a third degree UTERINE prolapse".

Six months ago big changes and a big mass filled most avilable space in the vagina down to the opening. Freaked out! As recent posts probably indicate.

Went to another (hundred year old) male gynecologist who said "you're uterus is fine and the front wall is fallen down. Having studied anatomy in the last six months asked " do you mean a bladder prolapse". Doc says " maybe but don't worry about it - you'll probaly be fine till your menapause"

(Are we able to name names of gyne's we love/ Don't like so much here?)

He allowed me get an intravaginal ULTRASOUND. This involved a long vibrator type device inserted.

Lady says all your organs are perfectly in place. Very happy. Very confused. Then not happy cos i know the test was utterly wrong.

How could an objective instrument a "scientific" "machine" get it wrong? My theory - the instument was long enough and thick enough to act like a big pessary/ human error.

Especially as the nurse asked her collougeue(lousy speller!) five times while pointing at the screen. "what's that"

(Also a tad worried about damaging the delicate tissues of the vagina with those tests which are high heat. Info on the net suggests ultrasound's high heat not so safe!)

Few weeks later, go to pelvic physiotherapist, she says " it's a uterine and bladder prolapse"

FInally last week went to a specialist in both the bladder and uterus here in toronto- a UROGYNOCOLOGIST.

Her verdict. No uterine prolapse and a very mild level one to two bladder prolapse. NOthing else.

Extremely nice woman, Gave me all the time i needed and took a big interest in christine's book, web site and the sea pearls which I brought with me.

I'm going to another urogynecologist to be absolutely sure. But i think she is correct.

One thing struck me in differentiating between bladder and uterus prolapse. The picture's all looked the same to me, even photo's but this seemed a good test.

Some book said to push the uterus right the way up before doing something or other. WHen i tried this, the directiont the mass moved in when i tried to push it away, was against the front wall (belly button and down. NOT upward in any straight direction towards the head where anatomy shows it going)

I took years to do this. I just was scared to push things around and so didn't do it till just recently.

I hope this is correct and also maybe usefulll way to differentiate. Perhaps it's not. I'd love your opinion on this christine.

Holy Moly - Did i say something about being brief somewhere. Perhaps this is my brief!! LOL

Best wishes everyone