When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
So I just started teaching women on this forum. Within weeks, the women started writing back, “It’s working! I can feel the difference!”
From that moment on, the forum became the hub of the Whole Woman Community. Unfortunately, spammers also discovered the forum, along with the thousands of women we had been helping. The level of spamming became so intolerable and time-consuming, we regretfully took the forum down.
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alemama
April 23, 2010 - 5:00pm
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you have a prolapse- no wait! you don't?
Hey Dreamer- before this visit had you ever gotten an official diagnosis of prolapse? I just ask b/c maybe all your hard work has paid off and they didn't find a prolapse because you reversed it. Wouldn't that be great?
Christine
April 23, 2010 - 8:21pm
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elongated cervix
Hi Dreamer8,
It is situations like these that call for assertiveness. Is there a way to call the urogyn back and ask a few questions? Like, what exactly is an elongated cervix and how is it in proportion to the other prolapsed cervixes you see? What in the world does it mean that the cervix "just grows". Is the body of my uterus mobile or does it seem fixed in place? Won't the hypertrophic quality of exogenous estrogen make my prolapse worse?
What these doctors come up with never ceases to amaze us here at WW. Of course I have no way of knowing what she found or how many standard deviations from normal your cervix actually is. But you could feel for yourself and compare it to pictures on the internet. It is very easy to do and just feels sort of like a turkey neck.
I have only heard of elongated cervix in reference to uterine suspension operations that immobilize the uterus either to the front of the body or the back. Because the cells of the cervix are very stretchy (think crowning), when the body of the uterus is fixed in such a way, the cervix can just stretch like silly putty.
Please keep us posted on your progress.
Christine
louiseds
April 24, 2010 - 10:32pm
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Elongated cervix
Hi Dreamer
I would like to affirm Christine's comments.
Even if your cervix is elongated, what is the relevance of this. Is it a problem for you? Is it a problem for the doctor? Does it signal something else that we or you are not being told about? Is the doctor saying it should be a problem, or assuming that it is a problem for you? Or is the doctor saying, "Oh, don't worry, it is just that your cervix is elongated, and that is not a problem in itself"? (Kind of like having one long toe, which has no relevance other than finding shoes that fit satisfactorily.)
I did some googling and couldn't come up with any good reason why a woman would want to 'do something ' about it, other than to stop it hanging down further than is comfortable.
Have I missed something, or is it purely to do with comfort (which Wholewoman techniques should be able to improve) and aesthetics?
I too agree that you need to ask the doctor the medical/surgical/hormonal relevance of the diagnosis of elongated cervix before going any further.
Louise
dreamer8
April 25, 2010 - 11:16pm
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TY for Input/Support
I wish I would have had you and Christine and the whole team with me when I went to this medical facility! Basically, the urogynecologist came in to assist the first trainee ? dr., and had me hold a mirror so we could look and see - immediately, she said, just the other day she had another woman with this elongated cervix. It's Very unusual. A pessary could support the sagging even tho it's not a prolapse. As long as it's one without a hole (my cervix would come through)- She mentioned the only surgical procedure for it is the same as for cervical dysplasia. It's optional. Could have complications.
I have been sagging and treating this as a prolapse since I started understanding what was happening to my body last year. Maybe some of my practices are helping. When I asked about specific exercises, she said it can't hurt. This is only about comfort and health for me.
I asked many questions - the one about the cervix growing, she just said it grows. I too, googled for more info., and found nothing. I think she did view it as you said, like having a longer toe. We can just cut it. Or, use a pessary.
Tomorrow, I am going to call the office with more questions. I had already planned to fill out a comment card on svcs. for many reasons. Other things happened that were ridiculous while I was there. I'm grateful to have you all for support. More later. Thanks!
dreamer8
April 25, 2010 - 11:43pm
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Thanks for input/support
I had already planned to fill out a comment card for this supposedly reputable facility due to several things. I was also feeling nervous, because I don't like dealing with the medical world, and yet, per the PT, it sounded like something I could accept.
I plan to call the office tomorrow and sure hope to get more info. I thought it was obscerd when the urogynecologist said it just grows. I asked her twice. She said it was good for me to know and left the decision up to me as to whether or not I wanted to be fitted for a pessary. She said my uterus was very small. I've been post menopausal since '97. I never had children - I don't know if I've always had a small uterus. No one has ever told me.
I have felt and seen my cervix coming right out of my body enough to feel freaked out in the beginning (02/09) - a significant protrusion. My natural instincts had me trying a tampon initially - once I found your website and book, I started learning more and calming down.
This new info. re: elongated cervix has me baffled. With the sagging, it seems just like a pop. Maybe some of my exercises are helping. It's worse when my body is real relaxed. Thanks for your good questions. I will keep you posted. (:
fc12
April 26, 2010 - 1:42am
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Long cervix
A few years ago when I was getting a Pap smear done, the GP told me I had a 'long cervix' as an explanation as to why she was having difficulty getting the smear done and was hurting me sooo much!!!
She didn't use the word elongated and I didn't ask any questions. This was pre childbirth, pre POP for me so I didn't think it was that interesting.
Anyway, I'm only adding to the comments to say that I too have heard of this. Whether my 'diagnosis' is the same as yours remains to be seen but this is only the first time I've heard of something similar.
Having said all this, as far as I'm aware I don't have uterine prolapse. I'm pregnant now but prior to this pregnancy I could feel the opening of my cervix only if I reached in far with the top of my middle finger. Perhaps it's a bit lower that 'normal', I'm not sure but I don't think much at all.