When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
So I just started teaching women on this forum. Within weeks, the women started writing back, “It’s working! I can feel the difference!”
From that moment on, the forum became the hub of the Whole Woman Community. Unfortunately, spammers also discovered the forum, along with the thousands of women we had been helping. The level of spamming became so intolerable and time-consuming, we regretfully took the forum down.
Technology never sleeps, however, and we have better tools today for controlling spam than we did just a few years ago. So I am very excited and pleased to bring the forum back online.
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aza
July 9, 2010 - 6:40pm
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Hi mowoman
Welcome :)
You and Louise will have lots to talk about as it seems that you have similar lifestyles and daily activities. One thing to take into account with your situation and WW is that WW is based upon the knowledge that there is inherent structural support in the female body, and proper posture works to support the organs and prevent prolapse. Having had a hysterectomy, this changes things a bit for you. Have a look in the hysterectomy part of these forums...there will be lots for you to read in there.
My intent is not to sound discouraging, as I fully believe that WW practices can be nothing but helpful for all women. We are not quite sure yet about the long-term help for post-hysterectomy women, though. Regardless, you sound like you will fit right in and I hope you stick around and help us to learn from you as much as you will learn from us!
louiseds
July 10, 2010 - 6:47am
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Welcome Mowoman
Hi Mowoman
Yes, I am here, and yes, I do lead a similar lifestyle, but we don't do horses. I can ride a bit, but haven't tried it since having POP. Several women have tried it, with varying success, but none to my knowledge who have had hysterectomy.
As Aza has pointed out we really do not know how much benefit Wholewoman posture can be for you. However, we do know that carrying your bladder as far forward as you can will put your bladder further over onto the solid pubic bones, so it is not hanging in space, so to speak. However, the degree of forward positioning probably depends on how the top of your vagina is held up in the absence of the support that kept your uterus in place. You might also find some of the exercises Christine has designed may be unhelpful. Christine has posted about this on the Hysterecomy Forum. Use the Search box to find these posts.
Having said that, Saving the Whole Woman explains pelvic anatomy in a way that will help you to understand better how your body works, and enable you to visualise what is happening in your body, so you will be able to judge better how to use your body in ways that reinforce rather than strain the support that remains for your bladder. The diet recommendations are good for all women, and help to prevent constipation which can worsen rectocele, which you don't seem to have. the clothing tips are also sound because they are based on allowing as much room for your abdomen as possible, which in turn allows your bladder room to stay over your pubic bones as much as possible.
You might also find the HERS Foundation website to be a useful resource, www.hersfoundation.org , for understanding what has been done to your body, and how it affects your body.
One thing I would suggest is to get access to your surgical notes and find out exactly what was done, because that may have implications for exercises you would or would not be wise to do. These details may also be helpful for explaining other symptoms you might be having.
Re tummy exercises, tall, proud, and very female Wholewoman posture gives your abdominal muscles all the exercise they need to be strong and functional because this posture maintains both the pelvic floor muscles and the abdominal muscles at their functional length, and makes them work with everyday walking and everyday tasks. A more more slouchy posture with the butt tucked under makes both the pelvic floor muscles and the abdominal muscles loose because it makes their origin and their insertion points closer together. This means that they are never stretched much and they can never contract enough with everyday activities to maintain and develop their strength. So, of course you will need to do extra exercise to strengthen them. You will find an explanation of these phenomena in Saving the Whole Woman, but of course you will have to do some translating about the other effects of posture on your changed body.
Hope you can learn a lot here, and that we can help you deal with this errant bladder of yours.
Louise
meribelle
October 6, 2010 - 4:39am
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post hysterectomy exercise
Well, I do feel rather out of place here, since I did have a hysterectomy many years ago. I was feeling hopeful, but some of the posts lately have made me doubt that this will work for me since I have had my 'parts' removed. I still feel good after I do the exercises and I like my posture, so I will continue anyway. It is rather like the only way... surgery is not an option, and having some part of me protruding from my vagina is uncomfortable, so I will just carry on with the knowledge that any exercise is better than sitting and feeling sorry for myself. love to you all. m.
Christine
October 6, 2010 - 4:30pm
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post-hyst
Hi Meribelle,
Please don't be discouraged! I think this work *must* work for post-hyst women. Logic dictates that, as you say, it is the only way. Your organs must be kept forward, too! You have even more reason for doing so, since enterocele can be so very difficult. How can the organs fall out the back when you are carrying them to the front?
We need more women like you getting good, lasting results before we can scream it to the world that reconstructive surgeons can take their 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th "pelvic floor" surgeries and....(fill in the blank).
You are in the right place - we are all sisters here.
((((hugs))))
Christine