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louiseds
July 26, 2010 - 11:49pm
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acupuncture
Hi JDsmommy, Look up acupuncture in the Search box before you part with your precious $100. I think there might be better ways to spend it initially, eg WW bundle or WW membership. That is unless there are some postural and gut related things happening as well, that might respond to acupuncture, so enabling you to get your posture right and your digestive system functioning properly.
Good luck.
L
bad_mirror
July 27, 2010 - 1:11am
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Qi for pop
I did about 8 appointments when I first discovered my cystocele. I wanted to "leave no stone unturned." There was no instant resolution, but it did help me mentally. And who knows, Qi is a mysterious power! I think the practitioner is important. I would try to find a doctor of Chinese Medicine or someone whose practice specializes in women's health. A lot of healers, PTs, etc can get training in acupuncture, but I think it is better to use someone whose sole focus is Chinese medicine. (and someone who knows what pop is!). Bottom line, acupuncture won't directly lift your organs, but you might still derive some important healing benefits. Best wishes!
heavenly
July 27, 2010 - 6:00am
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Hi Carrie, how ya be, so to speak
I have been into natural medicine for many years but not necessarily with the pop issue. HOWEVER have been looking into acupuncture myself. I believe in the great and powerful effects it can have on the body. So far have found 6 that say it can help lift and some that say no it won't help but can help with the pain after surgery. I am still searching, will let you know what I come up with. I love to research. And I will get to the bottom of it.
Love YA, Keep the Faith
Miss Monica
July 27, 2010 - 6:48am
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Traditional Chinese Medicine
Hi Carrie
I just wanted to let you know that I have found acupuncture to be helpful with POP. I find that I feel a lifting and that my symptoms dissipate for up to 48 hours. Which is a lot for me at the moment! The TCM picture includes herbs as well as acupuncture and when you are looking into a practitioner it may be useful to reference the following TCM formula:
http://www.bluepoppy.com/cfwebstorefb/index.cfm?fuseaction=feature.displ...
Also, my TCM doctor has taught my husband how to do some of the needling and supplied us with needles and moxibustion sticks. This has meant we can keep the costs down by doing more treatments at home.
Good luck. Wish there were an easy way!!!
Grandma Joy
July 27, 2010 - 6:05pm
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Re: Traditional Chinese Medicine
I'll try to be as succinct here as possible without going into great detail. I think I posted elsewhere here about having my spine torqued during breast cancer surgery a few years ago which resulted in my not being able to move, sit, stand or whatever in any comfortable position. My body adapted itself to the places that were locked up, roughly the T12, lumbar areas and the upper cervical areas, including all the underlying fascia, connective tissue, muscles, and resulting scar tissue. I've seen many different therapists, etcetera, who helped on a temporary basis - so bless them for small favors.
A couple of months ago, I decided to try acupuncture because a massage therapist instructor in New Mexico told me I might benefit from it. She had helped me tremendously with the hips, legs and feet problems. I researched acupuncture sites, most of which stated it would not help prolapse if you had been told it was at the point you needed surgery.
I, with great skepticism, decided to go to a doctor who was an instructor at a school of Traditional Chinese Medicine. I went for the pain and malformation in my spine, primarily and the prolapse secondarily, and have been delighted with this gentle man who is a fourth generation doctor of TCM who began his learning at the knees of his father and grandfathers at the age of 6.
Yes, we talked about the prolapse but he insists the entire spine has to be dealth with first, that the prolapse can be helped but not necessarily cured. He also said prolapse is an indication of low chi (qi?) in the spleen - Not sure exactly what that means. And that he does want me to do exercises when I can, but slowly, nothing strenuous or fast until I can feel the strength to do them.
Also, my intracostabracheal nerve (sp?) was severed during that surgery which affects all the muscles in the arms and back, specifically the, latissimmus dorsi, which is connected to the______which is connected to the______ and so on, which has prevented me, or at least caused a great deal of pain, in trying to do many of the different exercises.
At this point, I can move so much more freely as the acupuncture has been so successful, it allows me to do the beginning basics on Christine's DVD at the WW Center. I have had vertigo for the last two months which has made it difficult to do much more than stand-up without help. The lovely local doc gave me two rounds of Z-pak, 4 shots and Avelox - antibiotics I didn't really want. The avelox caused me to have a severe reaction at 5:00 in the AM on July 4 and I am just now getting back to where I can function properly, almost.
The only herbals he has given me are for the gut along with the probiotic I take. It has been a long journey for me, but I'm still in the running, er - walking, maybe.
So, yes, I think acupuncture is good for someone with prolapse, but you're still going to have to do Christine's exercises!!!! It's an all over body thing - you know? Whole Woman it is.
Sorry for the long post.
Blessings,
Grandma Joy
JDsmommy
July 27, 2010 - 8:49pm
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Chinese Acupuncture
Thank you for the in-depth responses. I am definitely not looking for acupuncture to replace WW, but wondering if the two together could make for better results than either alone. I made an appointment but cancelled it because I want to learn more before I spend all that money. I'm going to keep doing research and will include a search on this forum per Louise's suggestion. Thanks again and please feel free to post any more info about it!
Carrie
Grandma Joy
July 27, 2010 - 10:21pm
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Cost of acupuncture
I don't pay $100 per treatment - wouldn't be going if it cost that much.
The college of acupuncture I go to only charges between $16 and $25 for a treatment in their in house clinic. Depends on your age. Check in your area for a school.
Grandma Joy
JDsmommy
July 29, 2010 - 9:19pm
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Acupuncture School
I didn't think of trying a school. I had been thinking I would have to forget about acupuncture because it is cost-prohibitive. Thanks for the idea.
angel2me
November 19, 2010 - 11:41am
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Hey did you end up trying
Hey did you end up trying accupuncture? I had one session and had to stop because I got sick and wasn't well enough to go out but am considering starting up again. The only thing that bothers me about going back to the same guy is that number one, he doesn't speak english and his wife translates for him but besides that he told me to stay off my feet and to draw up my uterus and hold it there for as many times as I can before I get out of bed. I think he was trying to suggest Kegels. Well I heard that they don't work and I can't spend the rest of my life on my back either so my confidence in him is a bit shakey. Nonethless, I am still interested in it and am curious to see if you did try it and if you have noticed any improvements.