When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
So I just started teaching women on this forum. Within weeks, the women started writing back, “It’s working! I can feel the difference!”
From that moment on, the forum became the hub of the Whole Woman Community. Unfortunately, spammers also discovered the forum, along with the thousands of women we had been helping. The level of spamming became so intolerable and time-consuming, we regretfully took the forum down.
Technology never sleeps, however, and we have better tools today for controlling spam than we did just a few years ago. So I am very excited and pleased to bring the forum back online.
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Best wishes,
Christine Kent
Founder
Whole Woman
Christine
January 11, 2006 - 4:28pm
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Christine
January 11, 2006 - 4:31pm
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Hi Danielle,
It sounds like you
sybille
January 11, 2006 - 5:02pm
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I think most forums have the usual conversation with the same people. I notice on powersurge, the usual "talk" and every once in a while someone will come on board and the usual will offer suggestions, etc. Same here. I go in spurts. Read. Don't sign onto computer. Respond. Don't sign onto computer. Read. And so it goes on. I keep forgetting that new women come on board and need the wisdom of the old timers. When I was on UPRISE, I noticed it was the usual women who responded and that would come in spurts, maybe with three or four responding in a day and on the weekends less than that. With a touted membership of a little over 800 at last count, one would think the round table discussions would have more women involved. Everyone is busy and like me, probably would enjoy just reading. I really have to work on that.
If one remains aware of the position held while walking and sitting, the soreness will eventually dissipate and with that each day, week, months will get better. No - this is not a cure for prolapses, but a stabilization and perhaps a bit of healing. That is all we really can ask for. After all - prolapses for most of the women who have them are a badge of honor for giving birth allbeit a not much wished for badge. But then, it is not a death dealing diagnosis - just an inconvenience that one learns to tolerate. And one can tolerate it.
Yes, I sleep on my tummy; I do the leg lifts and my goal was to have a "rock hard" tush, which for me I have accomplished. (I actually like that backside ) There is where the majority of the support comes from. And...I am walking very tall. No longer does my husband say, "Stand straight." I do and to do otherwise would be most uncomfortable.
Stay with this program, offer support to the new ones and read, read, read. That is what this is all about.
Sybille
granolamom
January 11, 2006 - 5:42pm
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Hi Danielle
I'm a mommy too, I have 3 kids and my youngest just turned two. I noticed my prolapse a few months ago (dont even remember anymore) and haven't sought any medical advice. thankfully I found this site first!
I get busy too, I'm usually reading with my 2yo on my lap so I don't respond to most threads. I hope I didn't hurt any feelings by not responding! I can make a better effort though. this website has been a lifesaver for me.
mommynow
January 11, 2006 - 6:35pm
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Thank you ladies. I have been a part of a few forums since being pregnant (pregnancy and now mommy forums) and they have always been so busy so I was just shocked that it is so quiet here. However, maybe it is because this is working for so many woman :) They come here to get support and then forget about their prolapses because of the healing they've done?? That would be wonderful if it is the case. I do think it is so wonderful how you Christine respond to everyone. It shows you really care about us and that support means more than you'll ever know. I guess it would just be nice to chat with some other woman just starting out like me.
fraele70
January 23, 2006 - 7:49am
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I am so sorry. I really EXPLOIT everybody's experience, and I read the new messages to keep updated, and I search by keywords, before asking questions,and I did non realize that not eveybody does the same and many would like an immediate reply. I was afraid of repeating myself, once I posted my story I haven't bothered sending partial replies to those who have had my same experience.
I' ll try to share more with all of you, it is so important to have a place where anything may be relevant for others, especially considering the way doctors treat us.
Have a nice day
Christine
January 23, 2006 - 9:37am
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Ornella,
Thanks so much for your consideration. I
mermaidsd
January 27, 2006 - 8:57am
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Danielle...
Several comments made in your post really resonated with me, and I just wanted to respond.
First of all...about yoga. I, too, practiced a lot of yoga in the year preceding pregnancy as well as throughout being pregnant, as I was in the midst of yoga teacher training up until two weeks before conceiving. I remember holding 'tadasana'-mountain pose, with tailbone tucked under and abs engaged, and that pose never really felt right to me. In general I think that yoga is a wonderful modality for exercise and healing, but there are a few poses that I always thought were a bit off, this one being one of them. Being a PT as well, it seemed weird to be engaging in a posture that flattened the natural curves of the spine. Now learning more about prolapses, it has become clear to me why.
Have you resumed your yoga practice since the birth of your baby?
I also am a recently postpartum, recently prolapsed (bladder) new mommy and I have been, as you have, racked with emotions of devastation regarding possibly having more babies as well as my life in general. I am hoping that with time, we will be feeling better, both physically, emotionally and spiritually...and so I send you hugs.
Namaste,
Michele
UKmummy
February 17, 2006 - 11:35am
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Hi Mommynow,I am TOTALLY
Hi Mommynow,
I am TOTALLY here to support you and anyone else who needs it!!! I am also busy and feel a bit guilty for posting when my children need me but this place has already helped me SO much and I truly appreciate Christine for her personal replies!
I am only four weeks post partum with a new UP and I think rectocele though I have not seen anyone except my midwife who described me as "rare". I was and still am devastated but am gradually feeling a bit less fragile now. It is interesting but the uterus has not proplapsed again even when bearing down though I am trying not to, wierd! Don't know why but I am glad for every day it stays higher. I have been doing the posture and kegels, (I know these can be limited in their success but they make me feel better and I don't think will do any harm). I need to work on my diet! I will see a Gyn next week to be assessed but I have no actual symptoms and am glad for that and will do all Christine suggests to stabilise and perhaps get better.
Anyway, you are not alone!!!! We can travel on this path together and be healed emotionally and hopefully physically together too or at least get to a place where we can live with this!
big hugs!
Michelle.
mommynow
February 19, 2006 - 12:46pm
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Thanks Michele and Michelle :)
Thanks for your support ladies. It helps to know I am not the only postpartum mom going through this and that there are other moms going through this journey. Michelle I do Kegels everyday also. I think I was doing too many before. I got this book called "Every Since I Had My Baby" and he has a kegel program in there that is very manageable. However, the posture is what has made the most difference. I am so thankful to Christine. I used to think about the prolapse 100% of the time and now I think about it 75% of the time...haha..an improvement. I still "feel" it there but the symptoms have improved a lot already. I used to have this major pressure and would always want to sit down. Now I can stand a lot longer in the posture without needing to sit. I still have a ways to go but I don't feel as depressed about it. How are you ladies feeling?
UKmummy
February 20, 2006 - 8:49am
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Hi Mommynow,I am doing
Hi Mommynow,
I am doing better! (I also got that book and have been doing the kegelling routine from it! Didn't really like the section on prolapse though becuase all he offers is basically surgery as a solution). I actually don't have any symptoms at all from the prolapse and since it prolapsed that first day my uterus has stayed up, albeit a little lower! I THINK a have a small rectocele but don't really know as I haven't seen anyone yet. Everything feels somewhat looser but nothing is actually hanging out. (Sorry, hope I'm not being too graphic!) I don't know if this is good news or whether it will slide again but of course I hope not! I am practising the posture too though my lower back aches a bit, I have a disc problem and I think it may be exacerbating this a bit the past few days but I will see my chiropractor today so all is well. I guess a lot of my feeling better has to do with this support, Christine and hoping things at least don't get worse than they are now. I have read a few sources who say post partum prolapse really can improve for up to a year after delivery and several others who say they had this issue and after the initial prolapse it didn't recur so, time will tell. I guess this really is a lesson for me to live one day at a time! I am still thinking about all this most of the time though and I have to be careful not to zone out from my kids and become too preoccupied. I hope there will be a time also when I think about it less! Great you are doing better as well...........keep in touch!!!
Big hugs,
Michelle.
zandria72
February 20, 2006 - 1:35pm
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hello!
I just haven't been on the site for a few weeks...
I have a 13 month old son. I didn't find out about my cystocele until several months after the birth. I'm not sure when I developed it - it might have been a while PP. I didn't do any pushing during the birth; I had a c-section unfortunately. My doctor said I got the cystocele from labor. I think it was probably more likely due to bad posture (while sitting) and a poor choice in abdominal exercises. :(
I read the book and watched the video, but I didn't implement many things immediately. My biggest change was how I sat. For years, I've been spending a lot of time on my computer, and my sitting posture was horrid. So I've corrected it (though I still slump on occasion). I don't feel that my standing posture is as much of an issue, and when I do think about it, I don't feel as though there is as much to correct. I also haven't gotten around to practicing any of the floor exercises. I don't feel that my cystocele has changed for better or worse...but I haven't looked at it lately. I know it's there because of how much trouble I have during menstruation (trying to find a method that works for that). I can feel that things are not normal there. But I'm not as worried about it getting worse. I don't think of it as the end of the world. I'm a little concerned about what will happen if/when I try to have more children, but that's still a couple of years away, so I'm not worrying too much yet. ;)
Suzanne