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alemama
August 2, 2011 - 10:50pm
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post tubal ligation syndrome (PTLS)
Here's a blog about it- it has some studies quoted
http://fittobeuntiedposttubaligationsyndrome.blogspot.com/
A different blog:
http://posttuballigationsyndrome.blogspot.com/
There seem to be a long list of symptoms associated with the TL.
One possible mechanism suggested as a cause of these symptoms is disruption of the normal blood between the fallopian tubes, ovaries, and uterus.
I'm not messing with it ;)
aza
August 3, 2011 - 1:53pm
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TL
Thanks, alemama! Will check out those links.
I wouldn't mess with it either, trust me! This is for someone who feels like it is the best option.
If someone could invent non-hormonal, non-surgical 100% effective birthcontrol (for those who do not want to be abstinent), that person would be very popular indeed!
bad_mirror
August 3, 2011 - 2:14pm
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Non-hormonal, non-surgical, permanent birth control
Aza, is the Essure procedure available where you are? It may be an alternative to ligation. I can't speak to anything about it except what I've read on the website, www.essure.com . It is hormone free and done without invasive sugery, but involves blockage of the tubes, which may carry it's own problems. Something to look into?
Christine
August 3, 2011 - 9:10pm
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looks promising
Thanks for sending this along, BadMirror. After decades of dreadful tubal procedures, this one seems reasonable. It will be interesting to see how it does over the long term.
Salt
September 7, 2011 - 1:56pm
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concern re pthalate in Essure and Post tubal ligation syndrome
I was a bit worried when I read what the Essure block was made of.
I would think that it, too, could have a risk of causing post tubal ligation syndrome or similar but am not sure if the risk would be as high.
I had my tubes 'tied' (actually little plastic clips) at age 21 and have always thought I had zero regrets. I have been over the top happy with that choice for the last 14 years!
but just from this post today, I read about post tubal ligation syndrome and I have over 75% of the symptoms. I wonder if the blood supply to/from my ovaries had been compromised (previously I had been thinking I began premenopause in my 20's). I will be reading more about this.
Aza, if the woman you speak of already has hormone balance issues, it may be good for her to know the risks of PTLS since it can cause even further hormone imbalance via effecting blood flow from ovaries.
bad_mirror
September 7, 2011 - 3:48pm
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teraphthalates, actually
hmm, so I'm going to sound like an Essure salesman here (honestly, I have no motive other that curiosity!). Where did you find information about phthalate content in Essure inserts? I only found reference to teraphthalates (also called para-phthalates) which are quite different chemically from the environmental and health hazardous ortho-phthalates we've been hearing of lately. At least according to what I've read . . . .
granolamom
September 7, 2011 - 4:58pm
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bc
unfortunately, I have not found the *perfect* form of bc
the IUD, while far from perfect (very far, I might add) might be an option preferable to tubal ligation. though its not 100%.
assuming she and her partner are not considering vasectomy? (also not perfect, just saying..)
alemama
September 7, 2011 - 6:34pm
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no perfect form
I know- I'm with you there.
I read a bunch about blocking the tubes and it discouraged me-
Salt
September 8, 2011 - 7:31am
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re: terephthalates actually
hi bad_mirror,
you're right - it's terephthalates. PETE specifically.
In past research about plastic bottled water, I had read about PETE leaching (?maybe not right word) endocrine disruptors and possibly antimony.
obviously the amount would be small in this case. I just worry about something like that being implanted in our body.
it's possibly that symptoms similar to post tubal ligation syndrome could be much more of an issue.