When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
So I just started teaching women on this forum. Within weeks, the women started writing back, “It’s working! I can feel the difference!”
From that moment on, the forum became the hub of the Whole Woman Community. Unfortunately, spammers also discovered the forum, along with the thousands of women we had been helping. The level of spamming became so intolerable and time-consuming, we regretfully took the forum down.
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louiseds
October 28, 2011 - 3:55pm
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temporary setbacks
Hi Happysheep
Well, my darling, you have just experienced two temporary setbacks at the same time. How distressing for you! Remember that they are both temporary.
Firstly, have you had a medical opinion on that shoulder, and have you had any physio to help it to heal? If Australian Rules footballers (a very physical brand of football in anyone's opinion), http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIReSJhQor0 can have multiple joint reconstructions and still play this sport at the highest level, I am sure you can have a shoulder reconstruction, injure it, and recover again to the point where you can get your Wholewoman posture back again.
My guess is that your body has wound back the clock, and you are protecting that shoulder using the same tools you were using before you had it repaired. Your brain has gone into Rewind, and you are just going to have to press the Fast Forward button again to make it be sensible, listen to you, and behave itself. Rant over.
Happysheep, your body now needs you to put your foot down and help it to heal, firstly the shoulder, using whatever resources are available to you, and secondly your posture. I think you are right. You are trying to protect your shoulder, and that is making you tense. Your shoulder needs Wholewoman posture too, to enable it to rest while you are not using it, to be relaxed while you are doing other things, and to do its part in balancing your body. Eventually you will get back to using it actively. The rest of your body also needs to be able to function as it wants to, and not be held hostage to your currently difficult shoulder.
I am wondering if you are forcing yourself to do things with that shoulder that it does not want to do in its injured state? And whether it is in its best interests to listen to it? Only a good physiotherapist or other therapist can tell you this and do their part to get your shoulder well again.
As for POP, well that is something only you can address with all your Wholewoman tools. I am sorry I cannot do this for you. Now, the sorry party is over. Off you go.
((((Hugs Happysheep)))).
Louise
Salt
October 29, 2011 - 8:50pm
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encouragement for Happy Sheep
hi Happy Sheep,
I'm sorry that you are going through stress and discomfort.
IF it does not cause you much stress, I encourage you to gently do the posture as much as you are able to (without hurting your shoulder in any way).
If it is a situation where you really aren't able to do the posture, I encourage you to return to it when you can, and perhaps there can be some lessening of stress if you think of all of us here who have improved a lot from it - knowing that when you *are* able to return to it, the posture will be there waiting to help you return to more vaginal/urethral comfort.
I had about a week last month when I was going through medical testing and much stress and I stopped doing the exercises and much of the posture. the prolapses got worse again, which was depressing, but after doing the work again for a while, my body began to respond. now, a few weeks later, my cervix/uterus is sometimes up the highest it's been since the prolapse in August!
I hope that is hopeful for you. I am pretty new to this program but already my own experience leads me to believe that we can have 'dips' or lapses and that when we return to the program and posture, our body will reliably respond well to it.
It may sound cheesy but I wonder if perhaps there is a part of you that can be a tough cookie for yourself - so that part of you (who has been tough for so long) can have the opportunity to feel your real feelings, knowing that the tough part will help pull you out of them after a while? I don't know if that made sense (it's been a long day :)
I am thinking of you and hoping that you have the time and energy to do nice things for yourself, to take healing time and include things in your life that bring you comfort.
louiseds
October 30, 2011 - 7:19pm
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fairy dance calling and cueing
Hi Christine
How about developing it like American Style Bellydance and Rock and Roll dancing, where there is a leader who determines what will happen next, and gives cues like particular arm and head movements which indicate what is going to happen next? Every dancer learns the steps and the cues, so the lead can change during the dance. ATS is very much the group 'dancing as one'. There are also particular mini-sequences of steps and manoeuvres that make up little sequences, which are cued as well. There is no choreography this way, but there is the opportunity for dancers to create their own style of leadership.
Another option would be to call the dance like square dancing, so you would have a video of each dance with dance music, and you would call the dancers to turns, changes of direction, and different configurations and mini-sequences. These would be good for groups of women to do together, perhaps on a weekly basis.
Louise
happysheep
October 31, 2011 - 3:46pm
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Thank you so much for the
Thank you so much for the encouraging words. They were very helpful. I really appreciate them. I am able to do the posture at this point. My shoulder is about 85% better than it was. I am trying to remember to do the fire breathing, etc., along with the posture. Thanks again!
happy sheep
happysheep
October 31, 2011 - 3:53pm
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Thank you, Louise. I saw my
Thank you, Louise. I saw my chiropractor for the shoulder and he said I had bursitis and inflamed scar tissue. Anyway, I'm doing a lot better with the shoulder at this point--able to tie my shoes etc., without pain--but I'm still cautious (which translates to tension). I have picked up the WW posture again and started doing the fire breathing, etc., again, too. Overall, I am doing so much better than I was. Boy, am I glad! Thanks for the encouragement and for pointing out that this is a temporary setback. Thanks again!
happy sheep
Christine
October 31, 2011 - 5:55pm
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choreography
Sounds great, Louise. Let's work on it when you're here!!