When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
So I just started teaching women on this forum. Within weeks, the women started writing back, “It’s working! I can feel the difference!”
From that moment on, the forum became the hub of the Whole Woman Community. Unfortunately, spammers also discovered the forum, along with the thousands of women we had been helping. The level of spamming became so intolerable and time-consuming, we regretfully took the forum down.
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alemama
November 19, 2011 - 5:04pm
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confusing
So glad you are feeling good today and got a bunch done. That feels awesome when it happens.
maybe it stands to reason that if you can have a bad day after doing too much you can have a good day after taking good care of yourself.....
Surviving60
November 19, 2011 - 5:22pm
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I can relate
My good/bad days often don't seem to correspond to anything that makes sense. So I try to be extra careful, when I'm feeling good, not to get lazy about posture and exercise. You will have plenty of these good days. Keep up the good work!
louiseds
November 19, 2011 - 9:43pm
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The bottom line
It takes a long time to get it. I am still learning after seven, no eight, years years!
You are right. Even if you don't get it ... yet ... take it and teach yourself. What is the alternative?
This is your body, your only body. Live in it as well as you can.
Louise
bad_mirror
November 19, 2011 - 9:47pm
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I get it
This is the part of WW that makes so much sense to me -- as long as our postures are optimizing the ability for our very breathing to pin our organs into place, then gravity, weight, impact, *work*, is what is the most therapeutic! I will write more about this in a few weeks when I update my pp chronicles, but I have been doing everything I want to physically, and I feel great! There is a woman on here who continually advocates excessive time lying down to heal prolapse. Hey, who am I to discount what worked for her, but I find that advice counterintuitive to all that I know about how pelvic organ support develops in a woman *living* her life. Humans were designed to be dynamic, flexible, moving beings. An upright body is a healthy body in so many ways. It has been my experience that once I stopped treating myself like a hothouse flower, my prolapse ceased to be an issue. Once I started the work of life in my true feminine form, I saw how true Christine statement is: our pelvic organ support system is maximized while we do our work.
ikam
November 20, 2011 - 4:32am
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I want to feel in control...
I still try to make sense, to find anything which could help me to predict good/bad days. I want to find any pattern and I still want to feel that I am in control...but I am not (at least it feels like this)...
Good days come and I am surprised why...I feel great when it happens...but then pain arrives and I feel defeated...and I don't understand why I am in pain (again)...
But I do feel more in control when I remember about my body posture and do my daily workout...and YES, Iw ant to take it, I know I can only benefit if it works...I try to trust others who have made this journey before me...
Louise, you said that you still learning after eight years...I understand, I think it is a process of constant learning...
But I am only in the beginning! It has been 2 or 3 weeks (only!)...I feel like giving up in times and then I carry on...
I have felt better recently, but maybe it is "too early" to think that what has helped me is the body posture?
I want to feel in control, but maybe I will feel more in control when I will stop controlling myself???
Ivonush
louiseds
November 20, 2011 - 6:05am
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Control
Yes, it is a big leap, letting go of the idea that we can actually control anything in this universe ... except our own response to where we find ourselves at any moment. That's about it.
I suspect there is only control at one end and surrender at the other end of a very short line. In the middle is everything else, finely balanced between the two poles. If we try and control too many things the whole pile is likely to topple on top of us. Methinks it is much more productive to arrange our lives in ways that are supportive of health, rather than focussing on reacting to our own suffering.
ikam
November 20, 2011 - 7:43am
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Looks I need to learn how to
Looks I need to learn how to stop controlling things rather than trying to be in a "full control" (impossible!)...
I also realised that most likely when I try to stay in control, I get into "fight/flight" mode and my body gets tense, including pelvic part, especially my buttocks...so eventually I work against myself...
Ivonush
Mishek
November 20, 2011 - 6:11pm
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Getting it!!
Yes i agree with you bad_mirror and i think that getting it comes gradually not all at once. What you're saying started to reasonate with me recently. At first i was very hesitant to do anything - gardening, housework you name it- i thought my organs would fall if i did all the things that i've always done. It's only of late that i have started to realise that the more active i am, the better i feel as long as i do everything in ww posture. I used to lye down quite a bit throughout the day from sheer exhaustion and aching back from doing the posture. Now i'm not sore or tired anymore and in fact have a lot of energy these days.
I am so used to the posture now that i have to check myself to make sure that i am in fact in posture.
Little setbacks come and go and that's ok as i have the tools to deal with it and have accepted this as a natural part of pop.
Love this forum - so happy and greatful to be here - got my life back:)
Christine
November 20, 2011 - 9:50pm
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self-remembering
Thanks for sharing your success with us, Mishtek. I believe to the bottom of my toes that this is the best we will ever be able to do for prolapse. What else is there but trying to return to the true pelvic organ support system? The work deepens with time. I hope eventually you will also begin to reap the benefits of paying greater attention to...yourself! Every major wisdom tradition teaches some sort of "be here now" practice. Self-remembering to pull into WW posture is about as be-here-now as it gets. We are waking up! :)
ikam
November 21, 2011 - 3:59am
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Getting it comes gradually...
...getting it comes gradually, not all at once...I need to remember this. Thank you Mishek...
Sometimes (OFTEN) it seems that I want to acheive it in one day...
But definetely I have more good times during each day than before. Still struggling at work when sitting with the client and on a train...