When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
So I just started teaching women on this forum. Within weeks, the women started writing back, “It’s working! I can feel the difference!”
From that moment on, the forum became the hub of the Whole Woman Community. Unfortunately, spammers also discovered the forum, along with the thousands of women we had been helping. The level of spamming became so intolerable and time-consuming, we regretfully took the forum down.
Technology never sleeps, however, and we have better tools today for controlling spam than we did just a few years ago. So I am very excited and pleased to bring the forum back online.
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Remember, the forum is here for two reasons. First, to get your questions answered by other women who have knowledge and experience to share. Second, it is the place to share your results and successes. Your stories will help other women learn that Whole Woman is what they need.
Whether you’re an old friend or a new acquaintance, welcome! The Whole Woman forum is a place where you can make a difference in your own life and the lives of thousands of women around the world!
Best wishes,
Christine Kent
Founder
Whole Woman
Daphne11
September 3, 2011 - 6:07pm
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WW Posture
Thank you! I'll keep trying it.
granolamom
September 3, 2011 - 7:07pm
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mama harper
I feel the same way about the posture!
and I just want to say 'wow' to the dozen babies! how awesome!! I had a couple of childhood friends who were one of a dozen or more and my sister's got almost as many. I love large families!!
louiseds
September 3, 2011 - 7:58pm
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Welcome Mama Harper
Hi Mama Harper
Your story is the classic illustration of how Wholewoman posture works. There certainly is some truth in posture reflecting attitude, that can be turned around the other way, so that adopting a proud, regal posture will make you feel like a queen.
Keep doing what you are doing. Hopefully there will be many girls and young women in your family who can learn about Wholewoman posture from you. It will be interesting to see what other changes you notice eventually.
Louise
Christine
September 4, 2011 - 8:57am
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Golden Proportion
Hi and welcome, Mama Harper,
Yes, I believe we have proved that WW posture is natural female posture because it obeys the laws of the Golden Mean, or Golden Proportion - as does everything else of beauty in the Universe! Here is a short article I wrote on the subject a few months ago.
Thank you very much for your feedback...it makes all the difference!!
Christine
alemama
September 4, 2011 - 1:45pm
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pam?
Christine, I just reread the article and noticed the comment from Pam England!
Wow!!! Have you gals gotten together? She's amazing and BFW is wonderful. I would love to see your work included in her update of her book.
You know, I know sometimes it seems like the shift takes sosososososo long, but you are shifting the consciousness of many great thinkers and leaders and we all know that saying about a small group of thoughtful people :)
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." - Margaret Mead.
Christine
September 4, 2011 - 3:11pm
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I adore Pam
Yes, she and I have tea once in awhile (reminds me that I need to call her!) She did a spot for us in the WWY1 dvd (which I sent to you). She encourages me to get on the speaking circuit, which I will do when I have a spare moment. We are launching into another video project as soon as WWY2 hits the streets. Also need to get a shorter rendition of the book translated into several languages.
I know it is true, Alemama. Thank you for being here almost from the beginning!
Daphne11
September 4, 2011 - 3:32pm
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Help! Vaginal wall growths
Have any of you experienced painful jabbing growths on the posterior vaginal wall near the entry. Some of the intense pain I have almost daily comes from these little growths (like cartilage) that push into the tenderest part of the upper (anterior) part of my vagina, just below where I pee.
The pain is so strong that I have to stop walking, moving, whatever I am doing. It's very local and stops me in my tracks. I then breathe and find the nearest bathroom where I try to push these little growths out of the way so that I can have some relief.
Anyone know what I'm talking about?? I realized recently that when the gynecologists I've seen this summer say that it doesn't look so bad is that these growths are probably flattened with the speculum and they don't even see them.
My longtime MD moved away this summer and I feel quite lost at the moment while I look for someone else to trust.
Thank you everyone.
louiseds
September 5, 2011 - 7:47am
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Energy/work
In high school Physics I learned two things quite early on.
1 that it uses more energy or work to get an object from stationary to moving than it takes to keep it on the move.
2 That the object will stop moving if the force keeping it moving stops.
So it is in all things in life.
bad_mirror
September 5, 2011 - 9:41am
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Daphne11
I cannot begin to guess what these growths indicate, nor do I think anyone here, regardless of personal experience can assist you with a diagnosis or medical advice. However, I can tell you that pain, especially when it takes your breath away or inhibits your basic daily activities is an enormous, waving red flag to seek medical attention. You may not currently have a therapeutic relationship with an MD, but do not let this stop you from getting an opinion. Be specific in your description of the issue; use a hand mirror to point it out to the doc. Be persistent if you feel the MD is being dismissive. Physicians, though well educated, are as subject to miss the obvious as the rest of us. I hope you can find relief soon!
Surviving60
September 6, 2011 - 9:39am
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How I remember the posture
I find that the easiest thing to remember, is to relax my stomach muscles. If I keep that foremost in my mind, the rest takes care of itself much more easily. Remember to expand the stomach when you breathe, not the chest.
Daphne11
September 6, 2011 - 10:14am
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How I remember the posture
When you say 'relax the stomach muscles' do you mean the mid torso level at the waistline or the lower abdominal muscles below the navel? I'm still not finding all information on this site and still awaiting materials via USPost.
Thanks,
Daphne
Surviving60
September 6, 2011 - 10:33am
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How I remember the posture
Sometimes if I'm not thinking about it, I will realize that my whole abdominal area is all tightened up. This I think is partly just tension, and partly the result of a lifetime of being taught to pull in the stomach and tuck in the butt -- this is the exact opposite of the Posture. But if you just relax your entire abdomen, and pull up your chest (so that you will not feel like you're just standing there with your stomach sticking out in front of you), then the natural curve returns to your lower spine. It feels good but is really a learned behaviour for me - I have to work at it all the time.
Christine
September 6, 2011 - 4:18pm
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posture
I think it’s important to keep reminding women that it is impossible to hyperextend the spine in WW posture. Try curving your lumbar spine as much as you possibly can...then lift your chest and see how the hyperextension straightens out. Try lifting your chest as high as possible. Then, while keeping your shoulders down, pull up through the back of your neck and crown of your head. The hyperextension of the thoracic spine resolves as well.
You’re right, Surviving...the most common error is not lifting the chest fully.
Daphne11
September 6, 2011 - 8:12pm
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The posture
I watched Christine do the sitting posture today on the video and later tried it while doing some sewing. It felt so comfortable that my mind couldn't really accept it. My mind said "you're being lazy." As i convinced my body that it was okay to not sit there with my stomach muscles pulled in tight I started to cry. It was like something precious I once had owned and lost and had found again. The experience was very validating.
The comfort was wonderful and the pain that I usually carry simply went away the whole time I stitched.
alemama
September 7, 2011 - 7:45am
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oh goosebumps
what a revelation!
louiseds
September 8, 2011 - 8:26am
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watching Christine in the video
:-)
Pretty good, eh?
I found it hard to learn to relax my tummy. The best way I found was to push it all outwards until I can feel it kind of tingly/burny, then relax and it comes back in just far enough and feels like my abs have had a good stretch.
Surviving60
September 8, 2011 - 12:37pm
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How I relax my abdomen
I just discovered that if I concentrate on expanding my belly when I breathe, that keeps the muscles relaxed. It's easier than having to literally stop what I'm doing and consciously relax the muscles. If I'm doing belly breathing, then the belly stays relaxed, and in turn, the lower spine curves naturally. If I also can just remember to keep the chest pulled up, then I'm good to go!
Daphne11
September 11, 2011 - 7:55pm
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Christine and the sit posture
Thanks for the tip. I just tried it and now I 'get it."
energeticmarg
May 21, 2012 - 6:04pm
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newly diagnosed cystocele
Hi everyone; thank goodness for this site as I was initially terrified and afraid ALL my insides were falling out!! However now at 68 I have a cystocele and hope to have a pessary to help. I have Christine's DVD and book and am practicing the posture and firebreathing and starting the other exercises----oh my god how grateful I am to have found this site before my appt. with the GYN Dr. next week!!!!!
jaylove
May 21, 2012 - 8:11pm
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Newly Diagnosed Cystele
Hi EnergeticMarg and Welcome!!! I'm 65 and was diagnosed with a Cystele 2&1/2 months ago. We are glad you found this site also. This program works and you'll find Christine's book to be so enlightening and helpful. I am also very grateful I found this web-site before I made a decision for surgery. Just remember to honor your Lumbar Curve at all times as Christine says. Stay in WWPosture and you will not get any worse. It will only take time and some changes. Best of Luck to you. You will find tons of information in the past posts and if you have questions - some of the older members will guide you along. We learn so much from this forum and their are so many good ideas shared.
Jaylove
energeticmarg
May 22, 2012 - 5:05am
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new cystocele
Thanks for your encouragement jaylove. I live in Ontario Canada and am wondering if there are any WW classes here?
Surviving60
May 22, 2012 - 10:26am
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teacher locations
Hi and welcome energetic....no teacher yet in Ontario, here are the locations so far:
http://wholewoman.com/Teachers/index.html
A new crop will be entering training soon. Meanwhile, you have what you need, good luck and bring your questions to this great forum! - Surviving
energeticmarg
May 22, 2012 - 10:41am
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re teachers
Thanks for the info surviving60