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fab
July 26, 2012 - 3:19am
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Organs not discs
Dear Flowerina
There may be someone here who has suffered similarly to you with a prolapsed disc. This site is concerned with Pelvic Organ Prolapse and so the acronym POP. And it is with POP that this forum is mainly concerned.
Yes, most definitely see your doctor if you are in any doubt. The pain of prolapsed discs normally goes after six weeks or so and the pain can be managed with panadol. You are talking about chronic pain and so it would seem better to check it out with your doctor. If this lower back pain is right at the spine, it could prove most serious
It is advised that you keep moving. If the pain, as you say, is increasing after you sleep, maybe you need to look at your mattress or the position your body takes while you are sleeping. I’m thinking everyone has suffered a cricked neck and it is usually after sleeping awkwardly, maybe you can check this out for yourself. When sleeping do you have your arms raised over your head, or do you sleep on one shoulder all through the night, or have you bought a new harder pillow than you have used previously? This may be what is upsetting your back and causing your pain. I do not have a prolapsed disc. However, my shoulder can ache with a southerly wind. So again allergic responses are not something we frequently look for in regards to pain, but in my case an old injury will flare with the winter or summer grasses brought on the wind.
Exercise should always be done with due caution. There is a threshold of pain which most of us ordinary mortals (excluding athletes) recognise as a signal to stop. If when you do these exercises, it becomes painful don’t push it too far, just a little and then see how you are next time. If you can beat that boundary without a significant increase in pain then you can give yourself license to continue, if not let it go for a few days.
Christine has a DVD for seniors which are a lighter form of exercise. You must judge carefully what is best for yourself, but remember these are specifically for prolapsed pelvic organs. But by all means whatever is the case adopt WW posture it will help whatever your back problem ultimately proves to be.
Cheers Fab
flowerina
July 26, 2012 - 7:33am
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affecting the posture
Thanks, fab.
I am aware this is about POP, but as I understand the aproach here is to fix the posture, there from I have concerns about other back or spine problems might be tackled.
To be hoenst, dont' know for sure which organd are falling out, as doctors GP and Gyn would say different organ every examination: uterus, bladder, or cervix is out, or abdominal wall is showing...I think is everything just depends how I move which one will slip at the time.
It look sto me very possible that is posture issue - and am very keen to do excercises. I am also bad with breathing. In offices is very often poor quality air that we breathe for 7-8 hour in a day.
Do you know how long it takes to affect the posture and get that curve in lower spine? EVery seats I use are not really suitable, they all force you to tuck bottom in and loose the healthy curve.
Cheers,
flowerina
Surviving60
July 26, 2012 - 6:13pm
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Getting into posture
Hi Flowerina. It doesn't really matter which organs are prolapsing. I am in my third year with this work, without a formal diagnosis. My symptoms give me the feedback I need, but I don't obsess. I like it that way! The point is, whatever you have, the "treatment" is WW posture.
The posture will become a habit the more you use it. Long walks in very excellent mindful posture will really do wonders to imprint upon your body this new way of being. I did not discover the extent of this until into my second year. Early on, I read Christine's book over and over, and I think my brain absorbed the concepts before I really started serious body work. A lot of time was lost and I think it was only later when my symptoms seemed to worsen, that I realized I was THINKING Whole Woman but not fully PRACTICING Whole Woman. Once I really committed, my results came faster and I didn't have to constantly remind myself to stay in good form.
Sitting at the office can be a problem....experiment until you find something that works. Good luck! - Surviving
fab
July 26, 2012 - 8:00pm
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Office chairs and posture
Dear Flowerina
I think you will feel the benefits of the WW posture very much straight away. Even if your improvement is partly psychologically at first because you know you are trying something that has worked for other woman, and your enthusiasm for acting to improve yourself can be a high. Some women can assume the posture very much straight off, for others it needs working at. So the range is a couple of weeks to some months. I guess it has to do with how much in error your posture has been to start with and how easily you can now adopt the improved one. I understand that with prolapsed discs you don’t want to upset them. I really don’t think this will be the case if you get the posture correctly. So after you have tried it come back and ask more questions if you feel you are not getting it right.
As regards to office chairs if you can manage to sit on the edge of the chair with your feet flat on the floor so that your thighs can slope just a little down to your knees, you may find this more comfortable for assuming the posture while sitting.
As for your office air, I found an air-conditioned office building very drying and I was very thirsty and head achy. I made the mistake of making copious cups of tea to slake my thirst and clear my head. Probably just sips of warm water would have been a better solution. For me at least.
It seems you are embarking well on your journey, I know everyone here would encourage you to keep at it.
Cheers Fab