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Christine
June 7, 2012 - 8:32am
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good find..
Coumestans have the most pronounced anti-estrogenic effect of all the phytoestrogens, yet are the least commonly ingested phytoestrogens in the standard Western diet. Coumestrol is found in red clover, alfalfa and licorice.
Surviving60
June 7, 2012 - 9:01am
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Cool! This tea has all three
Cool! This tea has all three!
jaylove
June 7, 2012 - 12:57pm
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Surviving
Surviving, Thanks for sharing about your Find. I haven't been able to find it yet. Still looking. I know that one of our Grocery Stores carry "Yogi" brands of tea. I will check it out. I'd love to drink this tea. Glad you were able to get it. Thanks Christine for teaching me something new. I didn't know about the information you just shared regarding the Coumestans.
Hugs to both of you, Jaylove
WholeWomanPA
June 9, 2012 - 5:04pm
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red clover tea
Dear Surviving,
When I started to look into the Yogi red clover tea, I found out is a relabelled Yogi tea that was sold as a tea to help with dieting and cholesterol. I believe it was called some sort of fasting tea. I'm going to look at it further ( just google Yogi Red Clover tea) Seems there are many ingredients in this brand that I want to check out before buying it. I've had a brand called Botanic Choice. It also only has red clover and can be purchased on-line. I'll let you know what further I discover about the Yogi brand.
WWPA
discouraged
July 29, 2012 - 10:18am
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Red Clover Tea in my yard
Hi,
I've found some red clover, I think. It is not deep burgundy, but more of a dark pink color. WOuld this work? The leaves are definitely clover. What do I use for the tea? The flower (dried or fresh?), or the leaves? Thanks for any help you can give.
D
Surviving60
July 29, 2012 - 2:08pm
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The right stuff?
I did some searches on here trying to find a discussion of leaves versus blossoms. I think maybe the leaves have more phytoestrogens than the blossoms, but some learned person should confirm this. I think both are good for tea. As to whether the clover growing in your yard is the right stuff or not, we may need Christine's or Louise's level of knowledge to answer that. Surviving
fab
July 30, 2012 - 3:19am
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backyard red clover
Dear Discouraged
If you google red clover coumestans you will bring up a wealth of information. Why not try asking your local nursery, council gardening staff or local growers/gardeners' society to identify a cutting of your plant that you think might be red clover.
If you can't find a knowledgeable person to identify it, don't eat it.
Most red clover teas I have seen include stems, flowers and leaves.
Cheers fab
louiseds
July 30, 2012 - 7:36am
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Identifying clover
Surviving, Try good old Ohio State University's ID tool. It is not strictly an identification key, but the pics are pretty good. http://hcs.osu.edu/hcs612/forageid.htm .
Yes. the leaves and stems have more flavenoids than the flowers. The levels are highest at the beginning of flowering when the plant is going from vegetative phase to reproductive phase. It is usually called Red Clover Tops in my experience. The ratio of leaves and stems to flowers can be somewhat variable between batches. I saw Christine's tub of Tops when I was in Albuquerque. Hers was very leafy compared to the one I can get in bulk.
I would suggest that buying red clover blossoms as a tea would be a waste of money.
Good luck in the back yard, Surviving. Beats mowing the lawn if you cut it, brew it and drink it, but you would want to know what had been walking on your lawn, and what might be on the leaves! Yuk!
Louise
Surviving60
July 30, 2012 - 4:24pm
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Discouraged, hope you saw this
Discouraged is the one with the clover in the yard - hope you tuned in here, let us know what you found out. I myself have some strange stuff growing out back, but alas, never noticed any clover.........
discouraged
July 30, 2012 - 7:47pm
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Red Clover
Hello Surviving,
Yes, Thanks for the post and for caring that I followed up on it. You would laugh to learn that I am in the wilderness on vacation only with a modem and the clover patch in the grass nearby. Also, my cervix decided to announce itself recently and I am floundering around for what to do besides the exercises and posture. My gyn is also on vacation! Time to turn to the wild food patch! I have planted Dutch Red Clover Seeds and they had lovely burgundy blossoms, and these are pink. I think you see why I cannot ask my local nursery or do online research now! But I do know and recognize this clover - we used to suck sweetness out of the colored tubular petals when we were kids and we all survived that. Yes, I'll keep you informed after I pick some more stems and blossoms.