When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
So I just started teaching women on this forum. Within weeks, the women started writing back, “It’s working! I can feel the difference!”
From that moment on, the forum became the hub of the Whole Woman Community. Unfortunately, spammers also discovered the forum, along with the thousands of women we had been helping. The level of spamming became so intolerable and time-consuming, we regretfully took the forum down.
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Surviving60
December 14, 2012 - 5:47pm
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Hi Agnus and welcome. Please
Hi Agnus and welcome. Please know that the broken feeling is familiar to all of us here. You are now a member of the largest club of women in the civilized world – prolapsed!
Please relax and believe us when we tell you that you’ll be fine. Just have some faith in your body and in what you are about to learn as a Whole Woman. I am in my third year of doing this work, and I am post-menopause. But we have tons of young moms on here who have gone on to have more babies after a discovery of prolapse and they are better than ever.
While waiting for your stuff, check around the forum, blog and website, and in particular, watch the first video on the Videos page (look under Resources) if you haven’t already. It’s such a great overview of Christine’s work. You are young and you’ll get great results from this. It’s not a quick fix. It’s lifelong maintenance. I myself have never felt better than since I made this posture my own. I thank Christine and WW every day of my life.
You are lucky to be here. Ask and your questions will be answered. You can live with this, without fear and limitations. You’ll be better than you were before. - Surviving
agnusdei
December 14, 2012 - 8:00pm
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....as the tears still flow....
Thanks for the welcome but I must say, I have been nothing short of a basket case, crying about my stupid crotch since I discovered this retched state. You seem to be so at peace with it! How, how do you hold it all together? Do you have to actively deal every day with your innards falling out or do they stay in for weeks at a time, so you honestly forget you have this issue, other than standing with a duck bum, as I think it looks! So totally bummed, I have three busy kids, home school and live on a busy farm, plus, I have my garden, have a huge flock of 'pet ' chickens, a couple geese and some lowline angus cattle, and now I dread what it will be like. I like to grow my own organic meat! Currently my husband is doing all the chores as I don't even dare lift a 5 gallon pail of water. How long till you felt like this wasn't an issue, and you can forget about it, or do you never forget about it?
fab
December 14, 2012 - 8:36pm
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Dry those tears
I don’t see anything wrong with letting husband do the chores for a few days till you can get your act together. Have a guilty rest, have a think and psych yourself up that you can do this.
Of course, you are not to be lifting 5 gallon pails of water, you are three months pregnant and have three other little children that will be wanting hugs whether mummy is upset, busy or preoccupied. And if duck bum posture fixes this thing then what the heck? Rather that, than prolapse.
Okay, get a sheet of paper and work out which things you think you can safely do (after your few days rest which will of course be relative with a family and farm) and which things you would be better off leaving alone for a while or working your way around. Add to that list getting posture right as you sit, walk, and do your chores. That can take some working out. You have some work ahead of you in which you can include your husband and children’s fun co-operation. Yeah, "smile though your hurt is breaking.”
Okay, pails of water, do you have a hose, if not an effective alternative then half fill the bucket and make two trips of it in posture.
Yes, you do get used to prolapse, yes it does get better. Once you recognize it for what it is; that takes the fear out of it. Once the fear is gone and you have already worked out a plan for the way ahead, you then have purpose. Prolapse will pull you up from time to time, but it won’t be so frightening, you will be able to work out where you went wrong and correct things. It means work though, so maybe some work duty shifting may be called for. Take your rest, plan and then on with it girl.
Best wishes, Fab
fab
December 14, 2012 - 9:08pm
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you
really only need to worry if you start to quack
agnusdei
December 15, 2012 - 7:11am
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quack quack
No kidding! So I had a really good sleep last night! Fell asleep as soon as I hit the pillow, not wondering if I was going to be popping out again tomorrow. I will have to do that, make a list, learn the posture while working and let my husband enjoy my chores for a while, as well as his farming. The hose works well in the summer, but here it is cold everyday now, Canada, around -5 to 5 degrees celcius, and only going to get colder as the winter goes on. I love the snow, and the kids go skiing down the barn hill, and so I will have to learn how to do all that I did with WW posture. Thanks, I think I am going to be able to work through this. I just hits you so hard, one day your intact, the next day whoa, your bottom is falling out! My husband says duck bum is better than hump back, so we'll get working on it. It normally takes quite along time to get books across the border here plus a hefty duty charge, normally 3 to 4 weeks for packages from the US. I watched the biking video, and the other videos about posture, and why kegels don't work etc. Very helpful since I think my tears finally dried enough to see instead of a big blur! Doing better today. I know I 'll have bad days emotionally, but feeling good this morning is nice!!!
Thanks!
Surviving60
December 15, 2012 - 7:41am
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You are totally on your way,
You are totally on your way, Agnus. Wrapping your mind around all of this is a huge part of the journey. The suddenness with which prolapse enters our lives (even though years in the making) is what makes these early days so much of a struggle. I for one started to feel better the minute I found this site. Knowing that my parts were not ACTUALLY falling out, that I didn't have to be afraid, and that there might be a nice natural way to address all this, was when life started to get better again. Sounds like you have a good life, a good man, and now, the tools to deal with this the right way. - Surviving
louiseds
December 15, 2012 - 9:42pm
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shifting stuff
Hi Agnes Duck Bum Not Hump Back, ;-)
I could have written Fab's first answer to you. It is very commonsense advice. A 5 gallon bucket of water is one of the harder things in the farmyard to move, because you have to hold it away from your body, and not trip over it or spill it on yourself, or on the ground, on the way. I would add, stand the bucket on a hand cart, fill it there, put the lid on it firmly, and wheel it to its destination. My hand cart/bag trolley is my very best friend, both indoors and outdoors, along with my washing trolley, which I use for transporting heavy stuff that is at hip height already, like a freezer's worth of frozen food to another freezer for purposes of defrosting, and of course a load of washing to the line and back. There are no prizes for being an Olympic weight lifter.
I was helping to shift a library of books to a new room yesterday, which involved about 5 hours of hurriedly shifting piles of books. I like shifting them 2 or 3 at a time, for the sake of my wrists and POP's, but sometimes others would hand me 10 at a time, to put on a shelf! My POP's are OK today, though I was very stiff and sore last night. Anyway, one of the trolleys they had was a hand trolley with six wheels, three on each side arranged in a triangle, for shifting things up staircases, so there is a shifting solution for everything.
How about asking your husband for a hand trolley for Christmas? It would be a very good investment in your future.
We have so many women in Canada. I wish someone from Canada would do Whole Woman Practitioner training. There is such a need for personal, one to one, learning of posture and work and lifestyle habits!
The grief and tears are real, for what you feel you have lost, and can never regain. Over the next couple of years you will re-write that reality as you learn ways of maintaining your new posture and keeping your pelvic organs inside you.
Right now I suggest that you concentrate on learning to breathe with your diaphragm and get your upper body to be more upright, which will lift your chest and pull your belly up, but allow room in your relaxed lower belly for your pelvic organs to take refuge from the abyss, resting on your pubic bones. Spending time on elbows and knees and in Child's pose from yoga will help. I wish Christine would do a DVD on pregnancy and postpartum workouts. The existing DVDs, starting with First Aid for Prolapse, all have POP-safe exercises that you can do now, though firebreathing is not for while you are pregnant or while in lochia and menstruation times.
Best wishes as your pregnancy progresses. Now, get on and write that list.
Louise
agnusdei
December 15, 2012 - 9:58pm
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Thanks
Louise, Just read your little write up about being a practitioner! I am so glad to find this site. I have never been much of a forum person, but this has helped so much! I need to know that I am not alone! I have 9 sisters, and 2 sister-in-laws and have never heard of this! So seeing how many have the same issue, and deal and improve is uplifting! Getting answers and encouragement from all of you is so helpful! Thanks again!