When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
So I just started teaching women on this forum. Within weeks, the women started writing back, “It’s working! I can feel the difference!”
From that moment on, the forum became the hub of the Whole Woman Community. Unfortunately, spammers also discovered the forum, along with the thousands of women we had been helping. The level of spamming became so intolerable and time-consuming, we regretfully took the forum down.
Technology never sleeps, however, and we have better tools today for controlling spam than we did just a few years ago. So I am very excited and pleased to bring the forum back online.
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louiseds
June 1, 2006 - 8:31pm
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louiseds
June 1, 2006 - 8:31pm
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Hang in there, Sammsav. Your life is not over. Stick around with this lovely bunch of ladies for heaps of support and a few laughs. Gotta go to work now. Catch you later.
Cheers
Louise
fullofgrace
June 1, 2006 - 8:47pm
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My first encouragement to
My first encouragement to you is that prolapse is a livable condition, it's not terminal, and you can have a normal life. Everyone here has chosen not to do surgery, because despite the success rates touted by surgeon's inevitably their surgical fixes fail and women are left with no other options than more surgery. So I have chosen to live well with prolapse now without surgery. Read on this board to see everyone's experiences. If your worry is sex or pregnancy, I have had no problem with either despite prolapse. At the home page www.wholewoman.com is a lot of other information too. As well as my birth story.
Jane
ann.helen
June 2, 2006 - 1:35pm
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hi sammsav
it was a year ago approx that i noticed a big change from having being disgnosed with a severe uterus prolapse and feeling very little different to feeling a big something august last year and getting it checked out.
I was gutted too, crying, unable to sleep, really upset. I since found out the first gyne was wrong - uterus was fine and it was a bladder/urethra prolpase and a mild one apparantly.
So first i'd say get a second opinion and try and see someone nice who has time to spend with you and doesn't push surgery.
Secondly, i really do think judging from my experience and the stories of women here over time that many of the fear's will pass,and the situation become very managable.
Reading chrisinte's book, having a good vent on here/ hearing other women's stories, becoming informed, making some lifestyle/diet/postural changes and slowly gettting used to change in architecture. I think it will get you through the hard times.
Best wishes
Anne-helen
sammsav
June 2, 2006 - 4:57pm
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doctors comments
well i went to the docs today, and she says i have a mild prolapse, now i'm sorry if i offends any one but felt physically sick, i'm a single parent working all the hours god sends to make ends meet, i'm also a carer so i know clients who have got this condition or whatever this is, now i came on here last night and learnt a lot of stuff and when i went to my doc she said she would send me for physio to see if that would work before surgury now after reading things on here i dont think i want surgury but when have i got time to do excercises and stuff i have to work 68 hours to break even i'm 30 and not yet with a long term partner and i'm wondering whats gonna happen when i do meet the man of my dreams, ive got an eight year old daughter so at least ive got one child but i just feel as if i have been cursed. if i dont have surgery then this thing is gonna be there and i,m gonna have to explain this. i dont mean to offend any one but this is how it is affecting me and i need some moral support xxx
louiseds
June 3, 2006 - 5:14am
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Things will get better
Dear Sammsav
You have just had some bad news, and it feels like your world is trying to cave you in. It will take a bit of time to come to grips with it. Prolapse will probably not change your life that much, once you have made the changes that Christine suggests.
There are lots of women who visit this site who have given birth satisfactorily after experiencing prolapse, and lots of their partners who don't really think there is any difference as far as they are concerned (sex-wise). A good,long term partner will love you for much more than that. Your body hasn't been ruined. There's just one little bit of it that is a bit different now. My guess is that it won't make any difference to your enjoyment of sex either. We would all be up the creek without a paddle if it did <:-o>
Any guy who is only interested in perfect sex bits in a woman needs his head read, and certainly isn't making love to you for your enjoyment as much as his. Apart from that, what are perfect sex bits anyway?
Keep visiting, and just keep loving that baby of yours. Take care.
Cheers
Louise
fullofgrace
June 3, 2006 - 10:12am
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Sammsav
I was absolutely devastated when I discovered prolapse, but not because of what it would do to my sex life because it was fine. My husband noticed absolutely no difference.
Prolapse slapped me in the face with my own mortality and that this body is not 18 anymore. I wanted more children and was afraid how prolapse would affect that. Then when I got a surprise pregnancy& I was terrified all over again. But thanks to this site I began to practice Christine's body posture, I went ahead and had another gentle vaginal birth, and the consequences of that did not worsen anything. In fact 19 mo. after the birth of my third child (I'm 35 and married for 7 years now), I do not even notice it. There is hope to live well with such a benign condition.
However, there is not hope after surgery. What happens is that surgery cannot create a lasting support and this weakens the area further, creating the way further prolapse. Search the archives here. You will see at least two women in recent months who had that experience with recurring prolapse or further prolapse after surgery. Also, if you search other prolapse forums you will see signature lines of women who have had mulitple surgeries year after year because there is just no way modern science can improve on the natural design. Once you have surgery there is no way to go back to the natural design. It is forever changed with new limitations and challenges as a result of the changes the surgeon made. So learning to live with prolapse and to support the natural structures is the best hope. After surgery women are told not to lift more than 10 pounds-- I'm sorry, but that is not for me. My baby is 30 pounds and my six year old is 50 and I'm going to lift them and play with them as long as they are young.
Living well with prolalpse is about learning our limitations, listening to our bodies, keeping our bodies in the natural postural alignment, nourishing our bodies with healthy food, and having a positive outlook.
Jane
mommi2three
June 3, 2006 - 12:09pm
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I feel even more inspired...
Hi Jane,
I am glad that you are still here to lend us newbies some support. It is very encouraging to hear that you are hardly noticing your prolapses now. I was just wondering if you have mild prolapses?
Although my prolapses are severe I do feel better since I started posture and diet a couple of months ago. I am looking forward to being able to "forget about it" too!
fullofgrace
June 3, 2006 - 12:45pm
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I was given a diagnosis by a
I was given a diagnosis by a gp after the birth of my second daughter and he said they looked mild to him, though it's very hard to see prolapse when one is lying on their back... I have not seen anyone since the birth of my son 19 mo. ago. My cervix is low, but not protruding. I can see the cystocele and definitely the rectocele--I think these two keep the cervix from coming out. The rectocele is the worst. Unless I need to empty either both are unbothersome. Because everything in that area ebs and flows with hormonal changes I notice the rectocele most during that time of the month--but because of all the protrusion of the bladder and rectum, I get saved from accidents when it first hits. The really cool thing is that when I do feel them, I understand why...time to go to the bathroom, that time of the month, etc. and I do not panic that my bottom is going to fall out. I consistenly felt the protrusions after the birth of my daughter and for many months I was depressed and scared.
Jane