Talking about prolapse

You are graceful indeed. Beautiful post!

I'm happy for you and your daughter. How relieved you must feel to be able to share this with her. It's hard enough at first to admit to ourselves. When I began to talk to my daughter about it a few years ago, she wasn't ready to hear it. I asked her to read the book and begin habituating WW posture. She was healthy and athletic and had no worries. Now (still healthy and fit) she's 27, newly married and thinking about a family. She was visiting from out of town today and volunteered info she was gathering about healthy natural childbirth to her Dad and me. Her sociology professor has shown the class videos comparing medically assisted childbirth with natural births, one of which my daughter described as "like a horror movie", the other like "an orgasmic" delivery. I was thrilled to hear it. Now I can hope for my daughter to enjoy giving birth and have a better long-term outcome. The most I got from my mom was "Don't have sex until you're married" and from my grandmom, "Don't lift anything heavy." Now I'm betting my grandmother did suffer with prolapse, having given birth under ether on the kitchen table four times!

As for my sons, TMI! they would say. I would gladly talk with them if they would let me, because it's about their health and happiness too. My husband will talk with them and I'll talk with their women...if any one of them ever brings one home.

Such an inspiring post, Graceful, and a call to action for many of us, including myself. My girls are in their early 20's, busy with their lives, no babies on the horizon at this time, and it has been so so hard for me to figure out how and when to introduce this topic. On the one hand, we do not want these young women who are just starting out in life, to be in fear of what may lie ahead for them as women. But on the other hand, how can we sit by, knowing what we know, and not want to share it NOW before it is too late? So, Graceful and Bebe, I salute you both. You are my inspiration to get off my butt and deal with this so that I will have no regrets later. - Surviving

For me it's the other way around. When I found out about WW, I went straight to my mom and mil and aunt and told them about it. And every so often I'd remind them of the posture, etc. I tell my friends about it any chance I get. They are in the same stage of life I am and this info is so pertinent right now. I don't think there's any reason to shy away from telling your daughters- simply explaining the general anatomy of the female pelvis and how slumping, modern furniture, constipation, etc. can negatively affect it, is enough, for starters.

I wish my doctor would have told me about my bladder before I saw it popping out of me......I wonder if something else could be wrong..........anything else popping down......or maybe she thought nothing could be done........well it is still popping out at me.....I am hoping in time I will not feel it out of me......I am hoping my stomach pains are now new muscles being used.......my 6 pack is not there anymore.....gee that did not take long.
It is too bad I do not have any money I would like to do a 30 year study (of course I will be dead in 30, but my daughter could finish it). I would like to take two groups of woman of about 100,000. Half do a regular life the other do WW posture and see what would happen.

hello Mika,

I truly understand the meaning of good days and bad days now. I tease with my friends that I now know why older men go after younger women!!

I have a great husband who supports me along this road. this change in my body caught me totally off guard. My mom nor grandmother even mentioned anything.

I am working on posture, diet, etc..

I can only say that it helps and it is better than surgery.

I have accepted that this is my life and the body I have to work with.

Press on!!!!

Brick2012

I love ur idea about a large comparison study. Though I think u could do it in much less than thirty years and prove ur point. I had the same experience with my doctor. They know its happening to u but don't give u any useful information....I have been on the site for five months. I am better on days when I do the posture!

LTwesp, you have to do the posture all the time. Whenever you are awake and upright! Work hard at it, and eventually it will become habit. - Surviving

Hi everyone,
It's great to hear some postive progress stories as well as difficult times stories. They're all part of life's rich tapestry and it is good to get an overall picture.
I think it's so important for women to talk with each other and 'share the care'. Together we can be a confident powerful support for each other and a force for good. In isolation we're more vulnerable and the good is a well kept secret.
I also love the idea of research on the WW way to treat prolapse. I wonder if there's a possibility of some 'before and after' research. Perhaps via a questionnaire the WW teachers use to guage outcome measures... Hmmm... mulling...
xwholewomanuk

I have posted about this before (http://www.wholewoman.com/forum/comment/36043#comment-36043) - I think it is an excellent idea. I think you could implement it as a condition of signing up to the forums (a very small price to pay for participants, who after all get huge benefits from being a member here, and I'm sure most women would be happy to periodically feedback their status - in an anonymous context of course).

There is even a free tool called survey monkey, which can be used for this sort of thing: http://www.surveymonkey.com.

So you could survey women when they first join, to get a brief summary of their history and current status, then survey them perhaps 6 monthly to build a picture of their progress. If someone opts out, you could also ask them for their status then.

Just a few ideas...

Hi Brick

Well, if older men want younger women as lovers because they have a tighter vagina, they might be better off sparing all of us from their bad sex, and use their own nice tight hand instead! ;-)

Hey TMI

You made me laugh out loud!!!!,

:)

Brilliant!

I say 'go ahead to your younger vagina and thanks; I have a life to live.'