When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
So I just started teaching women on this forum. Within weeks, the women started writing back, “It’s working! I can feel the difference!”
From that moment on, the forum became the hub of the Whole Woman Community. Unfortunately, spammers also discovered the forum, along with the thousands of women we had been helping. The level of spamming became so intolerable and time-consuming, we regretfully took the forum down.
Technology never sleeps, however, and we have better tools today for controlling spam than we did just a few years ago. So I am very excited and pleased to bring the forum back online.
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Best wishes,
Christine Kent
Founder
Whole Woman
UKmummy
June 15, 2006 - 4:26pm
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Welcome to you and yes, many
Welcome to you Pam, and yes, many of us have gone through a similar thing I am afraid!! Many different opinions about what has dropped and how much, as well as what to do, or not to do about it. It is amazing how ignorant many of the Drs are in relation to prolapse but they will not tell you this, just make something up. Seems to be pretty standard with many of the Dr's out there! (Not all of course!)
It is a good idea to get a few opinions until you are comfortable with what you hear, and of course to do lots of your own research. You will find your own place of comfort in all of this ultimately. Read lots of the posts here and get as much information as you can from as many places as you can in order to start your own informed healing path. It can be hard to start with, but does get easier with time and with support from others who have been there too, like us!!! :)
You are not losing your mind and you are not alone! This is a very manageable thing with some simple lifestyle changes and new perspectives towards the way in which we live our lives.
Hugs,
Michelle.
maya
June 15, 2006 - 4:41pm
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Dear Pam
I am so sorry for you! This is intense time for you, I know... Don't feel alone, we (wonderful beautiful women, with all sorts of prolapses!) are all here to give and share support and encouregement!
Two weeks after my second child was born I went through the same. I didn't know what was happening to my body, all I knew was that something was coming out of me! So scary! Terrifying! And the doctors... don't panic! The doctors can talk VERY DIFFERENT things. A good one should examine you either while you are standing or while lying down AND baring down (as if pushing baby out). Otherwise the real condition may not be diagnosed.
I ended up having prolapsed uterus and prolapsed bladder and rectum! But after the initial shock things started to get better. First weeks and months I was doing lots of thinking about all the possible options I could hear and read about: surgeries, pessaries and this and that (both of the doctors I saw recomended hysterectamy to me! I am 32 years old!!!)... I studied about the different options and never felt comfortable about the surgery talks... Finally just few weeks ago I found my way here. Now I am reading Christine's book and doing some excercices, and I am feeling lots better both physically and mentally!
This is a wonderful forum to support you! You are not alone! It is very scary in the beginning, I wish you strenght!
lots of loving thoughts,
maya
Christine
June 15, 2006 - 4:48pm
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medical response
I just want to add that this “Oh, it’s nothing. Go home and carry on as usual” is a new and increasingly common response from the medical community. This is a 180° turn-around from the classic, “Surgery is the only answer and the sooner, the better”, which was the standard advice for many decades.
The medical community is well aware that the political climate is changing around the issue of radical surgery for prolapse. It’s unfortunate, but not surprising, that they would counter with “It’s nothing, do nothing” nonchalance rather than trying to offer something truly useful.
rosewood
June 15, 2006 - 7:41pm
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Hi Pam, I'm glad you're here
Yes, it is very scary. I found my own condition only 3 or 4 short months ago, and it seems as if it were a lifetime. I feel as if I've been through and learned so much already.
There is so much healing potential out there for you. This website and Christine's materials contain much wisdom and support. I'd get her book and dvd and start with the postures right away. Gather as much information as you can to help you on your journey. I've read and reread Christine's book many times. It centers me.
Personally, I've been looking for healing around every corner I can. When I get backed into a corner of fear, something else breaks into my consciousness to lead me again in the healing path. What I work with are these things: Christine's postures (sitting and standing) and dvd exercises are paramount to maintain comfort; i rarely use chairs anymore and spend lots more time sitting and laying on the floor; along with this to support the postural work, I am doing something called the Alexander Technique -- I've just started doing this work again (I did it many years ago) to help with prolapse; I also see a doctor of Traditional Chinese Medicine and drink Chinese herbs; I use a resistance device vaginal exerciser to strengthen pc muscles; I am going to do some chiropractic work.
I tell you all this to illustrate that there are a lot of things you can try which can aid in your healing. And, there are alot of women living well and comfortably, active, healthy and happy with prolapse.
Come here often and get support and wisdom. It's been indispensable to me.
Blessings.
Marie
Cannuck
June 15, 2006 - 11:30pm
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you are not alone!
Hi Pam,
I too, went through a similiar experience, just a few weeks ago and am learning Christine's exercises and posture. It has helped me alot and it is so reassurring to hear others' stories and not to feel alone. This is a great place to feel support and get tips on living with prolapse. I'm glad you found this so soon. Hold onto your mind and strength.
Cannuck
Y
June 16, 2006 - 8:59pm
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Getting a second opinion
I can relate to your current comment. I just had my third child a month ago and last week went to see my midwife two weeks early because I felt like something was fallen out of me. She talked to me and offered me a few solutions kegels,diaphram or pessary. I am not sure about any of them. At first I thought...just give me the surgery to fix it and now after doing some research, I am not sure about what to do. I am beside myself. Who has time for this? I feel that something is wrong with me. It's weighing on my mind every second. The discomfort, not knowing what to do, and not being able to recovery and get back to my life. I feel helpless...This web site seems to be a great way to get information and support. I am looking forward to reading as much as I can to feel better...I wish you the best and I am looking forward to hearing more from you.
"Y"
granolamom
June 17, 2006 - 10:05pm
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Hi PamI'm sorry you are
Hi Pam
I'm sorry you are going through this. Its awfully frightening to find a prolapse! Go for the second opinion, but also try to figure it out on your own. which way does it move when you try to push it back? If it moves up, its your uterus. forward and its your bladder (or urethra). I think that's right, correct me someone if I'm wrong.
unfortunately, most doctors dont know enough about these conditions. seems that lots of women get different diagnoses from different doctors. And personally I prefer a dr telling me to go on with life as normal rather than have surgery or never have a normal life. Of course that is not helpful either, because once you discover a prolapse, your life is not normal. It takes time (lots of it) to come to terms with it. We have all been there. I know I spent lots of time crying about it, mourning my perfect bulge-free vagina, wishing there was a magic surgery that could bring it back (there isn't) so I didn't have to think about it anymore.
stick around here, read through the old posts. there is so much collective wisdom here and the women here are wonderful and supportive. With some lifestyle changes, you really CAN have a normal life with a prolapse.
UKmummy
June 18, 2006 - 1:53pm
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Granolamom,You make some
Dear Granolamom,
You make some very good points about us managing our own care in regard to this!
After I first discovered prolapse I went to see as many different health care professionals as I could. I was trying to find someone who would say what I wanted to hear I guess, that I could be "cured", or that I didn't have prolapse after all. What I actually heard was several very conflicting opinions about my situation. Although this was very frustrating and confusing for me at the time, it has actually helped me to realise that I know my body better than anyone else, and to know what I need to do for myself in relation to this thing. I think I actually learned a great deal about the subject of prolapse within the medical community by getting such conflicting advice.
After all of the confusion I was feeling, I was blessed to find a wonderful nurse practitioner who herself lives well with prolapse every day! This was SO helpful and healing for me, and put me at peace with my body once again. She really made me feel normal and whole again!
Michelle.