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Surviving60
July 7, 2013 - 3:22pm
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Hi cloudbliss, glad to know
Hi cloudbliss, glad to know that things are working out well for you. Good job on cleaning up your diet. I need all the role models I can get in this area.
I think Louise invented jiggling, but you can jiggle any way you want. It’s just a matter of bending forward from the hips and “jiggling” your organs into the lower belly. I find when I do it, most of the action is in my legs. It’s helpful before and after firebreathing, before and after going to the bathroom. I think Fab has a more creative method.
Nauli is tricky. I have never mastered it. Beside First Aid for Prolapse, it is covered in most detail in Yoga Third Wheel. Everything’s on sale this week!!
It’s hot and humid here too. It does make me feel a bit draggier than normal, probably because at times I’m not moving as much (and some bad, slouchy sitting), and at other times I’m doing a lot of not-so-prolapse-friendly summer chores.
Keep up the good work, girl! - Surviving
Tree Woman
July 8, 2013 - 2:48am
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trying not to slouch
You guys I am so excited, I have the whole woman book now and just ordered the yoga tapes and first aid for prolapse!!! Can't wait to get started on that as I am a big fan of yoga. I had a question about posture and relaxing, though. Yesterday I walked for 1.5 miles in ww posture. It's the first time I've been active in a while, or at least that active, and all in perfect ww posture besides. Today in church I was miserable. After standing in ww posture for half an hour in choir practice I was exhausted (I didn't get much sleep.) Then I had to sit through the service. I felt really exhausted and sore, but the hardest time in that hour and a half was the meditation. I wanted to relax as a natural response to closing my eyes, but of course didn't want to break the posture. I caught myself slouching a lot and had to keep correcting myself, but found all I could do was focus on maintaining the posture: actually meditating didn't happen. Did I just overextend myself yesterday with the walk? Are there ways to feel relaxed during times when people around you are relaxing? Meditating comes to mind, as well as times like this afternoon where my friends and I were sitting crosslegged on a blanket having a picnic. Wow, I am so out of shape that I can't do the ww posture crosslegged and when I tried it was really awkward. Should I expect myself to be able to sit cross legged like that for over 30 minutes right away? I just don't feel relaxed in any of the sitting posture yet. I am wondering if that just comes in time, or whether I am holding myself too rigid or doing something wrong? Also, any tips on how to not be stiff when sitting in the ww posture so that, for example, when I am on the bus with legs strattling my dog I don't get swayed about by all the spiratic bus movements? Still haven't perfected proper balance in ww posture yet. Standing and walking are so much easier for me than sitting. Thanks for any suggestions!
Aging gracefully
July 8, 2013 - 6:43am
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Hi Tree Woman,
Hi Tree Woman,
Yes, it does take time to strengthen the body into posture. I have found the DVDs very helpful in that strengthening! They work all the muscles in such a way, you can't help but hold the posture.
When I first started walking again, and I was normally a walker, I was very discouraged that I would never walk again, but I kept at it. I can now walk for 50 minutes without symptoms appearing!! For me a milestone, when I used to walk much further, and plan on getting there again.
Time and patience, which are very difficult and frustrating at first, are on your side!!
I wish you the best, you are going down the right road.
MsNightingale
July 8, 2013 - 7:47am
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Hello Dear Tree Woman
It takes time, patience and dedication. Maybe you overdid it a bit starting out with the long walk. Most of us felt soreness in the first days and weeks. You have very good enthusiasm and I hope you keep that. To sit for 30 min with legs crossed may be way too much in the beginning, try one minute and slowly add on. The same is true for all that you do. In time, you will relax beautifully but still hold your beautiful life posture. This beautiful posture is moveable posture. A good posture will never be rigid. Try to distinguish between your effort and your success -- we make a great effort at first to get this new posture and in the concentration of it, we may become rigid. We want to feel it's freedom, motion and beauty while maintaining the balance and shape. Your meditation right now may be as simple as staying focused on this aspect of your new life. In time, you will expand and meditate again on the other things you choose. If your day allows you then maybe you can walk a bit, rest a bit, sit in posture a bit, then rest a bit, study the DVDs then rest, etc etc. That would be the way to go as best that you can. Best wishes to you dear Tree Woman and yes, I adore your name!
Surviving60
July 8, 2013 - 10:26am
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More on walking for Tree Woman
TW, I wanted to add a word or two about walking, because I have rectocele and cystocele. Aging Gracefully has I believe had some repairs done way back when, and in addition, has more of a uterine prolapse, so walking presents other challenges.
My own experience with walking is that my symptoms do not worsen the more I walk. They actually get better the longer I'm out there. Last summer I hiked for hours in posture, and when I was done, I was more symptom-free than I'd ever been (and for longer) since the discovery of prolapse.
This is not to say that you need to get out there and overdo. What I just described totally depends on being in full-on excellent WW posture the entire time. But that is my experience and I wanted to share it. Lots and lots of walking is what got me "over the hump" between dabbling in posture, and living in it! Hang in there, girl! - Surviving
Aging gracefully
July 8, 2013 - 10:49am
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Thanks for the addition
Thanks for the addition surviving. Yes, it is different experience for us all, isn't it? I found with my uterine prolapse that doing one of the DVDs first then going for a walk helped me best. At first, I couldn't walk very far no matter how I held posture, my cervix would just slump down there at the opening, so I had to build up to longer walks.
So glad you added the clarification. Thanks for always being here!!
cloudbliss7
July 14, 2013 - 9:15pm
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I took advantage of the WW
I took advantage of the WW sale!I received the Yoga bundle yesterday.
I am so excited!
I also had some advice from someone that put things into perspective for me.When you are sad or upset about the issues of your prolapse,and you are angry about what you may not be able to do.....write down all that you can do.You will realize you haven't lost YOU!
I am discovering that I am very able!!
I thank you every day for this forum!
fab
July 14, 2013 - 11:16pm
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Hi Cloudbliss7
Louised's jiggling I have held off describing as she would be best to do this herself, but it is roughly bending forward at the hips and jiggling or shaking your body in an up and down movement.
I have severe uterine prolapse so that although I liked the idea of Louised's jiggling, it did nothing for me because the prolapse was too far south for it to have an effect. I found that if I bent over at the hips so that my hands were flat on the floor (on those days you are not feeling flexible just on your finger tips is fine) and this meant my prolapse was well inside, then to jiggle up and down and if your balance is good you can actually give a few small jumps, that I received the full benefit of Louised's jiggling.
With primary rectocele and cystocele, Louised's jiggling would possibly be fine. Stil,l have a go at both and see what you think id best for you.
cloudbliss7
July 17, 2013 - 6:52pm
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Thank you Fab!!
Thank you Fab!!