Severe Cystocele

Ilovewings, you have already received several excellent responses to your previous posts on this problem. Are you having trouble locating them? - Surviving

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Hi ilovewings,
I'm so sorry to hear that you have been experiencing all of these issues. There are medical procedures that can help with this. You should check with your doctor and visit a urogynecologist who specializes in these kinds of issues. You probably do want to steer clear from the mesh surgeries. I've heard way too many stories of women having problems with mesh and I would hate for you to have to go through that too.

...for there is no surgical cure for prolapse. Urogynecology was formed in the late 1970s-early 80s in order to expand an already huge market of surgically managed women. These surgeons have brought nothing new to women's health, only doubled-down on surgeries known for a century to be fraught with risk and failure. The good gynecologists will admit this and encourage their patients to find other means to manage their prolapse.

The absolute only thing that makes sense is to return to the true pelvic organ support system. Your organs are meant to be supported by the lower abdominal wall, not the pelvic "floor". This work is doable for most women who have a uterus, and for those who do not it may be the only sensible response for you as well. You still have a bladder that must be held forward, which can be aided by learning how to hold your abdominal wall forward. By way of its round ligaments, however, the uterus is the "heavy lifter" of the pelvic interior - pulling the organs toward the front. The strong, muscular uterus also keeps the sacrum pulled down and forward into its natural alignment - stabilizing many structures including the hip joints.

Learn the true nature of your exquisite design and be wary of all prolapse surgeries, for they are all based on deep confusion of female pelvic anatomy and function.

Christine

I'm sure that you are both aware that gyns and urogyns are surgeons. If you are looking to avoid surgeries, surgeons may not be the best ones to consult. Claire, are you here to represent the industry or do you have some prolapse issues of your own to share with us? - Surviving

Neither, I am actually an advocate of raising awareness about this issue. I've spoken to a lot of women who have dealt with this issue and it is heartbreaking. I don't want to see anyone go through it so I'm just trying to spread my knowledge and the information that I've learned from women who have been affected.

Thanks Claire for getting back to us. Please read the words of Christine Kent up above and then let us know if you have something to advocate that falls within that framework. It should be kinda obvious that urogynocology as such, does not, so perhaps you can be more specific. - Surviving

Pelvic physical therapy is a great option. I have spoken with a therapist before who uses it as either a preventative measure or as a first-line treatment with her patients. I have read research that says that pelvic physical therapy can also decrease the likelihood of recurrence of incontinence or prolapse in women. Have you ever heard about or looked into pelvic physical therapy?

ClaireK,
Not trying to be rude here, but are you not interested in reading about Christine Kent's work? To most of us that come to this forum, her work IS our therapy.
If you are talking about traditional pelvic floor therapy, there have been many posts made by women on this forum that had little or no help, because the emphases is on kegels which may help some in the short term for incontinenece, but doesn't help prolapse in the long run.
Christine's work emphasizes a postural approach that helps get our organs back into our lower bellies where they belong. Read about some of her work, try it even, and then come back and tell us what you think.

AG - I don't think you are being rude. This forum has been used for people to share their intimate fears and frustrations with a life altering situation and we have put our trust in Christine's work. And most importantly, the women here have validated her work. The majority of the individuals on this forum are having to deal with this life change on a daily basis. I am sorry ClaireK but if you are not experiencing what we are all having to deal with then your advocacy and awareness is not helping anyone here. In fact, we don't know if you are too, but I am going to make an assumption since you are "advocating" you are not dealing with a prolapse of any kind. We are now having to learn how to deal but most importantly how to treat our bodies and support the WW philosopy and practice. We on this forum are advocating and bringing awareness to WW posture and focusing on this way of life. The medical community and their continual greed has disappointed me greatly. See a physician of any kind for this issue is not on my radar.

I'm so sorry--I did not mean to offend anyone here at all, especially not anyone who has been personally affected and especially not Christine. I was simply offering the knowledge that I have. I have been reading Christine's work this morning/afternoon and agree with it wholeheartedly. I came across this forum after speaking with women who were familiar with it and who have a tremendous amount of respect for Christine and her work. I am not here to offend or push any personal opinions at all--I am extremely sorry that is how my comment was taken.

Well said, greeneyedgirl!

Claire, I must echo Aging Gracefully's comment. You must realize that women with POP have and continue to read everything we can find. We each make our own decisions as to what works for us and feels comfortable for us. I do commend you for wanting to educate women about POP and do hope that you will share the information you have found on this site with women you know. We are women helping women by comparing our notes, praising each other successes, and lending comfort when there are setbacks. Women share their stories of births, life-threatening illnesses, intimancy problems, diet issues, and more here. And like any family of sisters...some days we may have a pissy day, disagree, or get frustrated with each other, but in the end we get back to work, and the work we do here is Whole Woman.

ClaireK,
We have had people come on here with agendas, and we weren't too clear on what yours was. Thank you for clarifying that.
There have been women on here that have tried different kinds of therapy, but they always seem to come back to the base point, Christine Kent's work. It really does help us!

Thank you. I think it is great that you are looking through the website. But if you want a real eye opener I recommend you purchase the $99 Whole Women Bundle package that includes Christine's book and the First Aid for Prolapse DVD. This material will definitely expand your knowledge. And it may also explain our sensitivity to medical science. Happy reading.

Claire, no doubt by now you have a sense about how passionate many of us are about Christine's Whole Woman program. Unfortunately, we must rely on the typed word to convey our messages and sometimes more gets read into them than what we had meant to imply. I am glad you are here and have taken an interest in Christine's method. Please accept my apology.

Thanks ladies for such wonderful words of support. I hope that Claire will take up the suggestion and help us to spread the word about natural posture. Claire, even if you do not have prolapse now (which will put you squarely in the minority, and your day may very well come), you want to also be aware of the larger ramifications for hips.....the subject of Christine's newly-published second book. The big picture is truly so much bigger than we thought it was. - Surviving