First of all, I know I don't have many posts under this name, but I have been on this forum for a number of years and I have the book and all that. But I used to post under another name as well, that I've since lost the password to. If anyone recalls, one time in particular I posted under the name "Jenna" about how much an orgasm can help put things into place. That was a fun learning experience. ;)
I was diagnosed with a uterine prolapse four (five?) years ago. It actually started happening a couple of years before that. At my last OB/GYN appointment, she told me I had a slight rectocele. The appointment the year before that, she told me I had a slight bladder prolapse. Frankly, none of that matters. I don't even let her test for that anymore. I will *not* bear down just so she can tell me things are messed up in there. I know it, already!
I was a wreck when I first found out - through my own self diagnosis and because there was no way to ignore what was happening in my vagina. I found this site rather early on because I despise the thought of surgery for anything. So, I went looking for alternatives and found this site.
I can't say I'm perfectly diligent with the posture, but I do take care to not slouch, to sit on the floor more, to be mindful of my posture while spending long periods driving, and to keep my clothes loose and non-restrictive around body. I avoid lifting heavy things and I rest when I feel things starting to act up. My weight fluctuates a bit, but I should lose about 30 pounds (working on it - I'm down 5!). But my prolapse happened prior to weight gain, so while it certainly doesn't help, it was not the cause.
More than anything else, this site has taught me to pay attention to my body more than anything. And here's what I learned, though your mileage may vary:
1. My uterus seeks steam. Honestly. I could be having a great week, but every day in the shower, that damn thing will be front and center. It doesn't matter what time of day I shower, what I was doing prior to showering, whether I bend over to shave my legs or not - it is always there. I've finally just chalked it up to its own quirky personality trait. Warm, steamy environment...who wouldn't want to enjoy a little bit of that each day?
2. As I said above, and I cannot stress this enough, an orgasm puts me right back in order. I used to think it was the action of intercourse pushing things back into place, but no. It's the orgasm that pulls everything where it's supposed to be. And things stay put for awhile. If you can, try having an orgasm three or four times a day for a few days. I would truly be interested to know if it's helpful for others. I even had a bad cold and was coughing like crazy through one particular month of extreme horniness, and my multiple daily orgasms kept everything neat and tidy. It's not something I can keep up forever, of course, but...I do definitely notice that multiple orgasms are very, very helpful.
3. If I'm feeling low and heavy, it means I need to move my bowels. It's an instant fix for me. Even if I don't feel like I do, if I take a book in with me and relax (no straining!), it will usually set things right again.
4. I know we're not supposed to do Kegels, but I have to tell you...I have laid on the bed with my legs open and a mirror propped in front of me and I have seen my uterus be pulled back, far away from the opening of my vagina.
5. I cannot Zumba. Or run. Lessons learned. That's okay. I hate running, anyway.
6. Even with all of these things I've learned about how to alleviate symptoms, I still have entire weeks in which I feel like things are awful. But, I've also been dealing with this long enough to know that, with some rest and time, that too will pass.
7. My sex life has not been affected greatly, except that maybe I'm not so inclined to spread my legs wide and, uh, squat anywhere. And if I'm receiving oral sex, I simply prop a little pillow under my bum to make me feel better about things. Gravity is our friend.
8. A sense of humor is key. Believe me, I have been down on the ground sobbing because this "horrible thing" happened to me. First of all, little did I know that so many other women suffer from it as well. It seems that every third woman I tell responds with "Oh, I've had surgery for that" or "I think I have that, but I'm too scared to see the doctor about it." Once I started to feel less like a freak, I was able to start trusting my body and laughing at myself a bit. In fact, a former boyfriend set a standing rule in Scrabble that whoever could spell "prolapse" automatically wins the game. :)
I won't say that I won't ever get surgery. But I'm nowhere near the point of feeling like I need it. If I can continue to maintain, as this site has helped me do, then I'm all good. :)
fab
January 4, 2014 - 3:54pm
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Great stuff
Good to see such victory, Jennifer and thanks for letting us know your positive approach to prolapse. I love the Scrabble rule! Just on the Kegels aspect, it is my understanding that it is the over exercising and strengthening of just a few pelvic muscles that proves to be the difficulty of relying just on kegels to help with pelvic organ prolapse. Whole Woman posture exercises the whole pelvic network. But you can read up on the Wholewoman take on Kegels straight from Christine herself here at this site. And Kegels was only ever offered to help incontinence, not prolapse. Personally speaking, perhaps it is not so bad for so many of us to feel like freaks for a while, maybe it brings us to a new understanding of human life that can prove invaluable in other ways.
Bebe
January 4, 2014 - 5:00pm
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Jennifer,
I really appreciate your post, especially your straight-forward presentation. It's warm and real. It has also seemed to me that orgasm is the best exercise for prolapse. It just makes sense.
And thank you, Fab, for relating again our experience to our whole (human) woman's life. I love you right now.
Aging gracefully
January 4, 2014 - 6:32pm
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Love this post!! I feel like
Love this post!! I feel like I am reading about myself in some of this, especially the shower routine. I have taken to baths more because of the feeling you describe. I thought I was the only one that felt that way in the shower! It was all in my mind or something.
For me also, sex is the best thing to get my prolapsed uterus back up there for a time, orgasm or not, but unfortunately I still don't have enough of it, or even the desire at times. Lol!
Thanks so much!!!
Christine
January 4, 2014 - 9:06pm
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Wha??? No posture? ;)
Hi Jennifer,
Just want to add that it is the round ligaments that pull the uterus (and therefore the rest of the pelvic interior) forward. They do this by contracting, since they are made up of the same contractile tissue as the muscular uterus itself. I can't fathom why you wouldn't make a more concerted effort to keep things forward with the posture. Nor that you would even entertain that damaging surgery might be in your future. Good work so far, but try pulling into WW posture every time you 're on your feet. It makes a huge difference.
Trying to type this on me phone since granddaughter has absconded with my computer.
Christine
fab
January 4, 2014 - 9:15pm
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Timely post
for me Christine, I've just been told by someone in authority that ligaments are not contractile.
Jennifer Lynne
January 4, 2014 - 9:43pm
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Okay!
Okay..point taken. I will concentrate more on posture.
Perhaps a slap on the wrist was in order. Thank you. :)
Aging gracefully
January 4, 2014 - 9:39pm
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Lol! Still wonderfully
Lol! Still wonderfully honest post, Jennifer! We all need that little nudge or a swift kick to keep us ongoing and motivated, at times. Yes, I have even more now than ever before found and truly realize the importance of posture. I can slack at times too, but my cervix will always let me know when I have gone too far.
Christine
January 4, 2014 - 10:28pm
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a "ligament" is not always a ligament
I agree, Fab, but we're talking about the round "ligaments" of the uterus, which are analogous to the spermatic cords in men (the spermatic cords pull the testes into the scrotum during the last weeks of embryological development and they do this by contracting).
fab
January 4, 2014 - 10:53pm
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That's
exactly what I have been counting on. It makes the whole damn thing possible and explains why WWposture works. How did you know I was thinking about just this, just today? It's got to be synchronicity!
Christine
January 4, 2014 - 11:03pm
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yes...synchronicity! :)
The same round ligaments that, according to gynecology, have "no supportive value". lol!
another chapter
January 7, 2014 - 8:34pm
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thoroughly enjoyed your post
thoroughly enjoyed your post JL. I am new to the prolaps thing and hearing how others are getting on is so very helpful! I seem to be managing fine right now and the posture is not a new thing for me, but the whole mental thing gets to me quite often. My whole lifestyle/activities are affected and I am not happy about the changes that I must make for this to not get worse :( But, every day I just "put my big girl panties on" and deal. I am hoping something good comes from this, as Fab suggests.
Surviving60
January 13, 2014 - 6:54am
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Hi Jennifer - you have
Hi Jennifer - you have gracefully accepted your wrist-slap for excluding posture from your list. We've gotten sidetracked by that "other" thread but I think it's time for you to report back on how you are progressing with WW posture and firebreathing - these are the real tools. - Surviving
Surviving60
January 15, 2014 - 9:46am
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I would prefer to see a list
I would prefer to see a list of 10 items, with Whole Woman posture as #1 and Whole Woman firebreathing as #2. I know you have been here awhile, Jennifer, do you have Christine's book or any of the dvds? - Surviving