When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
So I just started teaching women on this forum. Within weeks, the women started writing back, “It’s working! I can feel the difference!”
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Christine
October 18, 2006 - 6:18pm
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pregnancy and prolapse
It's just impossible to say. Many women here wonder "how bad can it get?" Would you mind telling us, in all honesty, what you mean by "My uterus is out of my body?" Thanks! C.
Titus2mom
October 18, 2006 - 6:50pm
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pregnancy and prolapse
I'm not sure how to answer it in all honesty! It is rather embarassing to admit (it took me months to finally get up the courage to start posting!), but I have what I think is most of my uterus protruding out of my vagina. I have seen two obgyn's about my prolapse, rectocele, and cystocele, but I don't know much about them (aside form the reading I've done) as the doctors are so brief and only interested in telling me about surgery. I have no pain, leakage, back problems; just a huge bulge. So in that case, I guess it could be worse. It is just always there - I can't help but notice it all the time, though I have gotten used to it (as much as one can! - and I do wear a jockstrap to help with the pressure down there). I walk, keep up with my children, and enjoy life. I just wish it wasn't there, of course. And I do wonder if it would be safe to get pregnant - for me and the baby. My doctor could be wrong about my situation being as bad as it gets. She could just be saying that to scare me into surgery!
Hope that helps to clarify things, Christine!
mummsy
October 18, 2006 - 8:57pm
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I had two children with the most severe prolapse
Hi Titus2mom,
The birth of my first daughter 7 years ago left me with my uterus on the outside of my body and also with a bowel and bladder prolapse.
I went on to have two more children falling pregnant within 2 mths of trying with each, I was extremely nervous as i honestly thought I could lose them as my uterus and cervix was on the outside of my body, but with both as the pregnancy progressed (by the time i was about 16 weeks) the gain in size pushed them back up inside me.
What you do have to do is make sure when you have given birth and waiting for the placenta to be delivered DO NOT LET THE MIDWIFE TUG ON THE PLACENTA as this can actually cause the uterus to be pulled inside out and also damage the back vagina wall, the hospital assured me they never do this but I know from baby 1 that they do, it was my regular doctor who told me to make sure they are all aware of the prolapse when I arrived at the hospital.
Pelvic floor excercises didnt help (And i did do them on a regular basis) as I was told I have a genetic problem suffering very weak body tissue, but I have since had surgery (now i have finished having children) and am very happy now with the results, its such a relief being able to walk without that balloon between my legs and the severe back pain when i did walk too far.
The bonus if you could say that is when you are close to your due date you can actually feel your cervix and see if you are dialating :o)
Good luck with baby number 5, you will be fine xx
Christine
October 18, 2006 - 9:13pm
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how bad can it get?
Thanks for your answer, which I find very encouraging. Considering that your cervix is attached to the base of your bladder at the “supravaginal septum”, at least half of that bulge must be your front vaginal wall and bladder. Other than the very rare case (which we have never heard of here, by the way) of the entire vagina turning inside out – with bladder, uterus, and rectum outside the body – your condition is what I believe to be “as bad as it can get.”
That being said, you have very little issue with discomfort, mobility – and sex it appears! Women need to hear this!
As far as whether it might worsen with another pregnancy, who knows? I so loved Jane’s (fullofgrace) brave vision of pregnancy pulling up her prolapse and actually improving it. That didn’t turn out to be the case, but she insisted her cystocele was no worse after her gentle home birth. We do know the cervix almost always pulls out of the vagina by the fourth month or so. We also know the cervix pulls UP over the baby’s head and shoulders during delivery – it does not push down.
In any event, I think you would respond very well to the postural work. The natural shrinkage of the uterus post-menopause may leave you with very slight symptoms in the long run. We just need another ten years or so to chart the natural history of prolapse in women doing this work to know for sure.
Titus2mom
October 18, 2006 - 9:16pm
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Thanks
Thank you for the encouraging reply, mummsy. It helps to feel that I am not the only one in this situation! :)
And thanks, Christine, for the info! I will begin the postural work soon.