When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
So I just started teaching women on this forum. Within weeks, the women started writing back, “It’s working! I can feel the difference!”
From that moment on, the forum became the hub of the Whole Woman Community. Unfortunately, spammers also discovered the forum, along with the thousands of women we had been helping. The level of spamming became so intolerable and time-consuming, we regretfully took the forum down.
Technology never sleeps, however, and we have better tools today for controlling spam than we did just a few years ago. So I am very excited and pleased to bring the forum back online.
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Surviving60
October 1, 2014 - 11:11am
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Pain in shin
You are absolutely correct, keeping the belly relaxed all the time if possible, is the cornerstone of this work. Anything new can cause a period of adjustment, so within reason, you just need to be patient and not push too hard. I presume you are staying in posture the rest of the time too, not only when you exercise? It sounds like this is a big change for your body, and it should be, because all that abdominal "core" stuff is what got you here in the first place. Relax the belly all the time. Relax the groin. Don't sit cross-legged. You'll be fine, but keep us posted. - Surviving
Aging gracefully
October 1, 2014 - 11:58am
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There is a lot of adjusting
There is a lot of adjusting your body needs to go through while it is changing into the correct posture it was always meant to be in, so you will have some strange pulls and strains in different areas. I also had the same ones you mention, but I did overdo it and ended up really straining my knee. So ease up on those exercises if you start feeling too much strain. Also, do some good stretching before the routines. I started doing that after I strained my knee and it really helped.
We are not used to doing the turned out aspect that these routines have, so always be aware of how they feel as you are doing them.
It took many many months to really work into these routines and get my body to cooperate! Lol! And, of course, keep that posture going as much as possible.
steadele
October 1, 2014 - 12:33pm
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Okey dokey. Thanks
Okey dokey. Thanks
steadele
October 1, 2014 - 12:52pm
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keeping in posture
One more thing. I am able to move my organs forward successfully when I'm in the posture so I know what its supposed to feel like. However my organs slip out very easily and its hard to understand why. In a period of 10 min they can slip in and out 6 times. Any thoughts on this.?
Surviving60
October 1, 2014 - 1:08pm
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Oh if only it were that easy,
Oh if only it were that easy, we wouldn’t have to work so hard to get this message out! There is no “cure” for prolapse, and managing your symptoms is something you’ll do for the rest of your life, in all of the various aspects that Christine teaches: Posture, exercise, diet, toilet habits, and all those other tools in the toolbox like jiggling, firebreathing, nauli, belly toss, etc. etc. etc. If you do all this, you will, as Aging Gracefully is so good at describing, be able to get things to behave for longer and longer periods. - Surviving
steadele
October 1, 2014 - 2:01pm
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managing symptoms
I'm not sure what jiggling is. Really all I want to be able to do is live my life and not be thinking of my prolapse for every waking moment which is what I'm doing now. It has taken over (because of the discomfort) which is exhausting me. So I'm hoping that with the exercises ,posture , diet and all the things you mentioned Surviving, I will once again have a somewhat full life. I know I cannot cure or reverse it. I'm just hoping for a better quality of life than what I am experiencing now.
Adele
Surviving60
October 1, 2014 - 2:39pm
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Doing this work has created a
Doing this work has created a mindfulness of my body that is virtually always lurking somewhere in my consciousness. But that is a far cry from the fear and obsession that grip a person in the early days of prolapse management. A month is a blip on the radar, keep working hard and your body will take over some of these things on their own. My biggest leap came in the second year. You may need to adjust your expectations a bit. Your life will be full, as full as you allow it to be, but forgetting about prolapse is really not the goal. - Surviving
Aging gracefully
October 1, 2014 - 3:16pm
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I agree with surviving,
I agree with surviving,
Once finding prolapse, there is really no forgetting it, but you can't look at it as a hindrance anymore, but something you can successfully live with. Christine has given us all the information and tools to do just that, we just need to embrace this as part of our lives now.
Believe me, I can have some very frustrating days with my profound uterine prolapse, but I can't imagine living without my uterus. I am kind of attached to her, and the alternatives are unbearable in my mind. So I journey on, because that's what this new part of my life with whole woman is, a journey.
Aussie Soul Sister
October 1, 2014 - 6:47pm
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Hi Dear steadele,
Hi Dear steadele,
I also found it more difficult in the beginning to feel comfortable doing the mat exercises in the sitting with legs out straight position.
A few months ago I started to do the Hips DVD as I had problems with my right hip and side. I had to straighten my arms and legs which were chronically bent, and stretch out all my muscles and fascia, and balance my body particularly with even weight - bearing and balance in general. I had no idea, and was shocked to discover how bent my limbs were and tight my muscles were. I am now also much more comfortable sitting on my knees and feet for some of the mat exercises which are done in that position.
The Hips DVD --- the upper body ( arms, head/neck) and abdominal - belly breathing exercises are done in a chair, which I have found to give me flexibility, and strength to hold up my torso, support my head - a strong neck and increasing arm strength.
The foot arch and hip/leg and mat exercises complete the workout on the whole body. I have gradually added hand weights to the arm exercises, and ankle weights for the hip exercises on the box.
I have since added the 1st Wheel DVD which reinforces my whole body progress. I find the forward bend stretches done from standing help & keep my legs and arms straightened, and there are some great groin stretching exercises, and more challenging balance work.
I was able to sit in a loose cross legged position yesterday without thinking about it while sorting a low cupboard and had no problems - the tighter cross - legged position is a challenge for me. I squat right down also which is a great position also. It will take time to heal my body as it took time to undo and create the issues in the first place.
I have had so many benefits that I will never look back. Listen to your body and it will tell you what you can do next - I tried the cross -legged position a bout 3 months ago and had my left side - knee etc protesting, when my instinct told me my body wasn't ready. In the end it is not one of my greater goals, and my body will surprise me one day when it is ready, as it has already done so many times on this journey.
Best wishes to you in this journey,
Aussie Soul Sister
steadele
October 1, 2014 - 7:54pm
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Thank you
Thanks girls. I'd like to share something with you. Today I went to see my GP to get the results of some tests. One of the many things I like about him is that he is open to an holistic approach to medicine. When he first heard that the urogynecologist had recommended an hysterectomy he told me flat out that they don't last and the success rate is poor. It was partly due to his urging and my own sense of preservation that I came to discover The Whole Woman website. I told him that I was working on a natural alternative to surgery and he was really interested. He wanted to know all about it and listened attentively as I explained about moving the organs forward, changing posture and exercise. He wanted me to show him the posture. He really understood it and thought that Christine was on to something. He told me that there were no practitioners of anything like The Whole Woman here in Quebec . He then suggested that I learn to become a practioner and that he and the other 2 doctors in his practice would refer many patients. He said that in the rural area where we live there are many , many women suffering with this problem who would be more than happy to try any alternative to surgery. I had no idea.
Adele
Aging gracefully
October 1, 2014 - 8:03pm
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Wow Steadele! That is
Wow Steadele! That is groundbreaking news!! Thank you so much for sharing it with us!
Surviving60
October 1, 2014 - 8:21pm
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That really is great Adele.
That really is great Adele. Seeing this doc sounds like just the boost that you needed. By the way, you will see if you click over to Practitioners that the nearest one is in Toronto. The network is growing every year. Maybe you will think about it down the road!
In reading over the rest of this thread, I came to realize that when you said "cross-legged" and I said don't do it, I was for some reason picturing that you were talking about sitting in a chair with legs crossed. I realize you were talking about sitting on the floor in a lotus position. It's true that in these floor positions it can be difficult to hold a good lumbar curvature. But once you get a little more limber as Soul Sis says, it gets easier and there is such a benefit in doing it. Keep up the wonderful work! - Surviving
steadele
October 2, 2014 - 5:33am
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I did check out the
I did check out the practitioner in Toronto however she is not taking any new clients. Too busy I guess,
Adele
Surviving60
October 2, 2014 - 7:05am
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Ooops...
Sorry I missed that. It does say that on the site.