To Surviving 60

Hi Cleo. I wish that you would go back and read the discussion again. My comments on the pessary were directed to Charlene, because pessary was a very poor suggestion for a new mom with rectocele.

My comments to you are because I'm not sure you are following Whole Woman posture, and it worries me. Despite what you have found, the internet is full of information about prolapse. Most of it is wrong and steers women down a path of useless kegeling (like your website), or even more dangerous surgeries. Whole Woman is different because Christine has identified the true anatomy of the hips and pelvic organs, and teaches us how to manage prolapse posturally.

So Cleo if you need a refresher, please watch First Aid for Prolapse (or get a copy if you don't have it) and study up on the Whole Woman posture. It's never too late! - Surviving

PS, here is the thread that we are talking about:
https://wholewoman.com/forum/node/6492

Hi Cleo,

By not many people talking about the subject of prolapse I think I know what you mean. While one hears lots of stuff in the media about breast cancer, for example, and how much money is being raised for it by the various charities and organizations who support finding a cure, and regular city walks etc. to raise funds for a cure, I don't believe I've ever heard of anything of the sort happening for proplapse! And while other illnesses (although prolapse isn't an illness, rather a "condition"), are talked about a lot on the news, including many of the things that affect women, there never seems to be any kind of discussions re prolapse. Yes, Surviving is right that there are many sites and forums online, but as she pointed out, the majority of these are giving out WRONG information. You at least found a flyer in your doc's office. I've never seen anything in print at Kaiser Permanente, which is one of the largest HMO's in the US. And you're so right, when over half (maybe more) of all women will eventually suffer some degree of prolapse in their lifetime, I agree that prolapse it a subject which should be talked about much much more in the broadcast media and not just online.

I think as women we're so defined by our 'saleability' as sex partners for our menfolk that prolapse is always going to mark us as damaged goods in a way that other chronic conditions do not. It's akin to an STD, almost! It makes my blood boil that our vaginas are simultaneously seen as fundamental to our worth, yet treated in such a cavalier fashion by the medical process of birth.

I'm not sure I'd be willing to talk about my condition widely, although I've been doing so pretty frankly among my family and female friends. It was hard enough yesterday at my 8-week postnatal consultation to have a young, pretty-boy male medical student sit in and listen to my woes.

I so agree with the above posts. Someone I know who was a nurse told me she had womens probs and was seeing a specialist. A month later she was over the moon as she had been told that nothing needs doing ,wait and see. Well that is ok as far as it goes. I tried to suggest looking at this wonderful web site but she dismissed the suggestion ,without discussion. It is so sad that she will not see how a posture change could prevent her problem from getting worse in the future. I am amazed at these people who prefer to be ostriches and do not search the internet for info. What can we do ? I believe she will live to regret not looking at this brilliant site.

As Christine has pointed out time and again.....the internet levels the playing field. We can now get our own information, not just what docs want us to have, and not just old wives tales and bad advice from our relatives and friends. But it is up to each woman not only to search for information, but to weigh it for ourselves, and then, when we think we have found the truth, act upon it instead of being an ostrich. There are still thousands of women every day who are getting surgeries. Example, hysterectomy is still heavily promoted by doctors and accepted by women, despite the HERS Foundation's 30+ year campaign to get the truth out. - Surviving

The blindness in society to what is a natural achievable approach is something I come across relentlessly.
So I concentrate on the amazing positives of being the best Whole Woman I can be, and remember what Christine wrote recently to never give up....
Best wishes,
Aussie Soul Sister

I seem to hear an awful lot on broadcast media (and read in the printed media too) about men's prostate issues. Now THAT'S not a particularly appetizing subject either, yet is talked about a great deal and every time there is a new test or med for this, it's literally ''headline news''. Same doesn't seem to apply to female prolapse probs though. How ironic. As if a prostate prob is somehow ''without shame'' whereas, according to polite society, prolapse is. How hypocritical! And how very very sad too. Neither condition, of course, is shameful. But only prostate issues make headlines. Seems it's a man's world after all. Even sadder.