When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
So I just started teaching women on this forum. Within weeks, the women started writing back, “It’s working! I can feel the difference!”
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Surviving60
May 23, 2015 - 9:32pm
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Hi Stripeysocks. I too
Hi Stripeysocks. I too came here 5 years ago, and since then I have been managing my prolapse quite successfully with Whole Woman posture, and the techniques and tools that go along with it. So I guess my question to you is, are you a newbie or have you been doing the work, or at least, learning about it? There is really only one effective way to manage prolapse, and it is not by limiting our activities. We have to learn and understand the anatomy of prolapse and put Christine's teachings to work every day. There isn't any shortcut, and it is never too late to get back into the postural work if you have let it slide. We have lots of members in that boat. Welcome back! - Surviving
Stripeysocks
May 24, 2015 - 8:47am
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Thanks for your reply
Miss Diagnosed
May 24, 2015 - 10:49am
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Hi stripey socks!
I'm very early days compared to you but am pretty sure I've had a Urethracele since my first child was born. Asymptomatic until my second baby arrived and since his birth a new rectocele and bulgy bladder. I know what you mean about the descending from bone feeling but I have come to realise that the difference between feeling and not feeling this Urethracele is very subtle and when I was doing kegels (yikes) it sat lower but now that a few months have passed doing ww posture it's only the rectocele that bothers me day to day. The Urethracele looks exactly the same as it did but doesn't move like it did if I contract my pelvic floor and feels more stable now than it did at Christmas when I could feel it drop on tensing and relaxing my muscles in there.
i wonder if the stress of planning your wedding and all the pressure to have an amazing time has put extra strain on your body? Are you feeling very symptomatic with it? I'd take heart in the fact that you have been here before with other celes and done very well. I'm sure that given a bit of time you will feel less scared and if you keep pulling your organs forward the pressure on your Urethra will be alleviated.
Miss Diagnosed
May 24, 2015 - 10:55am
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Also stripey socks
The panicky feeling is definitely something you might get help with before your big day. My celes would have ruined a recent holiday (symptomatic the whole time) had I not been in a better place mentally. I am doing hypnosis CDs at night to relax and really think they are helping me stay positive even on bad days. Don't put more pressure on yourself than necessary! I'm sure your wedding will be amazing - there's no need for you to be on your feet constantly- and in my experience a large glass of wine on a special occasion helps me relax and stop analysing every little feeling and discomfort.
ActiveandLapsed
May 24, 2015 - 4:41pm
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Hi Stripey Socks
Hi Stripey Socks
I had a year of my prolapse not bulging unless I over did something or had a tricky BM. Then one day my pink bulge (rectocele) would not go up and I developed a symptomatic cyctocele following that. My uterus also dropped that same day but I have natures pessary so it is all inside. I was not using WW principals for my first year of prolapse hence it got worse. I was also avoiding heavy lifting, not running but was still doing so much wrong as I did not understand my anatomy. I realise this may not be your situation as know you had found this site. Once I found this site it took me six months to really get serious and realise how much I was not in WW posture (although I thought I was). My cele got worse during that time. Everything has stablisised since I got the posture and my rectocele which is grade 3 has gone to grade 2 for much of my cycle.
It has been six months since I got serious and 2 months since I nailed the posture. I am very grateful for this work and forum. Actually it's saved my quality of life. It's taken me quite a while and a lot of retraining but things have improved for me but not back to the point where I am asymptomatic. If I go out of WW posture things drop right down. Of course I try not to go out of posture.
The good news on the emotional front is that this work is so healing so I am happy and healthy and living quite well with POP.
I realise you will be very busy getting ready for your wedding but could you manage a consult with Christine or another WW practitioner on Skype prior to your wedding. It could be the best present you give yourself so you enjoy your day and honeymoon. I had a consult with Christine recently and it was worth every penny.
Also a tip I find useful is to keep the area very moist and then I don't notice the bulges (when in WW posture). My hormones often help with this but honey and coconut oil also help.
What is the design of your wedding dress in the bodice? Just wondering so you can be comfortable on your big day. Many of us have to be careful to give our tummies room to be relaxed. I can appreciate you don't want to be making bit changes at this stage but I simply cannot not tolerate my tummy being squashed at all, especially when sitting.
Does you partner know about this? Mine is not very interested but has taken the changes I have had to make in his stride.
All the best.
Stripeysocks
May 26, 2015 - 12:20pm
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Thanks for your replies and
Stripeysocks
May 28, 2015 - 11:18am
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Stripeysocks
May 28, 2015 - 11:20am
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Thanks for your replies and
Thanks for your replies and support everyone. I know you know how important it is to feel like your not alone in what is a very traumatising situation.
Active, my wedding outfit is a loose silk dress thankfully,so no tight corset!
My partner is very supportive,and is reading all about prolapse to better understand how to help.
She is female and so (no disrespect to understanding male partners) I feel totally comfortable explaining to her fully what is happening and she can relate!
I went to my doctor today and have a very severe urine infection,which j think accounts for the pain I'm experiencing, but she was quite dismissive of me saying my urethral was prolapsing(she even questioned of it was possible).
I'm sorry to say she was not gently when she examined me,I told her she didn't need a speculum as you could see my 'bulge' easily by just parting my vulva slightly, but she used one anyway and it was very painful when she examined me with her fingers...I sometimes wonder how female doctors lose their empathy when examining other women's vaginas!
Stripeysocks
May 28, 2015 - 11:21am
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Anyway,she thinks my urethra
Anyway,she thinks my urethra opening/mass is swollen due to the nasty urine/bladder infection...but if it is still bulging after the antibiotics then will refer me to gyno physio.....(kegals...*sigh*)
So I'm less freaked out simply knowing the pain is from urine infection,but I'm wondering if anyone else gets these symptoms with urine infection? My rectocele and cyctocele feel a bit worse but it's mainly the popped out urethra that's the cause for concern!!!
Thanks for listening to me rant,feel better now
Stripeysocks
May 28, 2015 - 11:25am
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Update.
Update.
There is a round donut shaped mound of flesh all around but mainly below my urethra.
It feels massive and looks huge!!!! I'm not being paranoid because my partner says it defibatky wasn't that big before,though it has always felt a bit bulgey to me.
I'm very confused as when I'm searching irethral prolapse I'm seeing and reading abut the actual urethra coming out,raw and bleeding. Mine is like the ring of support around the opening has dropped and is now bulging below my urethra/abbé my vagina.
I'm very uncomfortable,feel like everything is bulging and falling down there,and aches when I sit...I have aches in my whole pelvic insides,and bad back ache..low near my cocxix .....
I'm so scared this is never getting better .....
Surviving60
May 28, 2015 - 1:55pm
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stripeysocks
Once you get past the stress of this wedding, and a raging UTI, I have a feeling things will settle down for you. But promise that you will learn and practice Whole Woman posture, because that is the key to ALL of this. You haven't actually mentioned whether or not you are doing this now.....only that you came here 5 years ago and have been managing pretty well ever since. Does that mean posture? - Surviving
sunflower.co
May 28, 2015 - 2:20pm
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stripysocks
It sounds like you have quite a lot of inflammation right now. After had my babies, I put a cold washcloth soaked in ginger tea in my genital area for the inflammation. Warm might feel better to you. I know it's hard not to panic when your body is doing something odd, but don't. Breathe and eat a non-inflamatory diet. Urethral prolapse is one I haven't had but I've read that it is possible. You are describing pain like I had when my pubic bones at the mons pubis were out of alignment due to a fall. I had a adjustment from a DO that made it feel better instantly. My heart goes out to you.
ActiveandLapsed
May 28, 2015 - 3:23pm
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Hi, that dress sounds great
Hi, that dress sounds great and you can now help you and your wife (to be) with WW work. I think women are so much more beautiful in WW posture (now I have had time to see that) so it will be interesting what your wife thinks.
I had a bladder infection when I came on this site and I used apple cidar vinegar (organic) and baking soda and epsom salts in a bath plus adopting the toilet habits on this site. I assume you are familiar with these. I assume this would also work for any other infections (a start before the doctors try to give you drugs anyway).
I am not sure about the ring you are describing, you are not referring to the cervix? Mine sits inside as I have the other prolapses acting as a pessary for it but I can feel my cervix just.
That is pretty horrid with your doctor and how dare they tell women they don't know their bodies. Perhaps they only spend an hour on prolapse in medical school and the lecture is given by a man. I told my female doctor that tampons were not staying in and getting filled with pee/water (it was pee) after my first child and she said don't use them but said nothing about it being early prolapse or even about my uterus having shifted position. Funny how they are so quick to warn us of so much that never happens but forget to mention something as common as prolapse.
All the best.
Desert Rose
May 28, 2015 - 10:48pm
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I'm quite prone to bladder
I'm quite prone to bladder infections and have been for many years. I swear by cranberry capsules and since I've been using them, I haven't had to take antibiotics a single time. I usually start at a high dose (three to five capsules up to three or more times a day) and slowly work down until I'm taking only two capsules three times a day. If I'm traveling and going to be sitting on a plane or driving for long periods, I take them to avoid an infection.
Hang in there. You matter.
Surviving60
May 29, 2015 - 3:53am
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bladder infections
Best prevented altogether, as A&L mentions using the WW toilet practices......a half-squat lifting up and forward off the seat to tip a prolapsed bladder far enough to get out every drop. Or down on hands and knees (in the shower perhaps) at least once a day to pee. - Surviving
ActiveandLapsed
June 3, 2015 - 5:02am
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Desert Rose
Hi Desert Rose
Have you tried putting local honey up in your vagina to help ward off infections. I was just thinking it might work as a preventative. Christine is putting lots about that in her new book I think.
Also, if I wear synthetic pants (like stretchy jeans) I use honey as I tend to be prone to an infection with that material. I also don't wear them for more than a day at a time. Have your investigated the fabric issue. I know you mentioned you used to wear lots of jeans. Modern clothing is not very good for letting that area breathe I think. Sorry to bring up clothing but since you are working on your new wardrobe it might be worth investigating. Denim didn't use to be an issue for me but I don't wear denim now.
I don't know anyone else that gets infections from synthetic clothing but I can swear by getting one if I wear it for too long. (I mean 100% synthetic as cotton blend is ok as is wool).