blood smear with tissue after firebreathing

Dysa, I don't know what would be causing this bleeding. You are well past menopause so perhaps you have some vaginal dryness that causes irriration with certain activities. Try the honey treatments that are discussed so often on this forum - a dab of raw local honey placed high up in the vagina once or twice a day can go a long way to restore comfort to the tissues.

You have also had surgery to remove tubes and ovaries. I don't know all the affects of this. Only you can decide if the nature of the blood smears you see, might be cause for a check-up at the doctor's.

If you think it's only the firebreathing that triggers this, then maybe it isn't the firebreathing itself, but rather, could firebreathing be the most strenuous of your normal daily activities?

Just some thoughts. - Surviving

Dysa, a cystocele is a bulge in the vaginal wall, so the only way a cystocele can bleed is if the vaginal tissue is very very irritated at the bulge. Perhaps your doc wants to make sure the blood isn't coming from somewhere else. - Surviving

Hi Dysa. I have a uterine prolapse not cystocele but about 3 weeks ago I had some spot bleeding. I'm remembering that I've had this before since my prolapse was diagnosed in 2012 but ages ago and had virtually forgotten about it. It was preceded by a feeling like mild period pain but I am 72! I had assumed that the testosterone/DHEA cream I'm using with respect to osteoporosis was perhaps too high a dose although I've been using that cream for several years. But then I also started wondering if it might relate to the prolapse in some way. Saw my rheumatologist today. My testosterone levels are sky high but no obvious adverse symptoms so he says don't let's assume its the cream. Wants my doc to do vaginal swab for abnormal cells and maybe have curette as well. Am wondering if a fibroid could be the issue. No mass was found back in 2012 but things might have changed. Would be very interested to know the findings in your case. Regards, Sunny

I would certainly consider the relationship between years of testosterone therapy and uterine hyperplasia and bleeding. Testosterone is changed into estrogen in our peripheral (mostly fat) cells. Estradiol has the highest affinity for Alpha estrogen receptors, which are mostly concentrated in the endometrium, ovaries, and breasts.

It is the Beta estrogen receptor that is predominant in our bones, skin, vulva, and brain. Remarkably, researchers discovered in the late 1990s that phytoestrogens have the highest affinity for Beta receptors, and cause normal and healthy gene transcription at the level of our DNA. This led to pharmaceutical companies racing to patent the positive actions of phytoestrogens on our bones in the form of SERMS - selective estrogen receptor modulator drugs. Predictably, SERMS have many side effects that natural plant medicines like red clover and alfalfa do not give rise to.

It is the highest level of irresponsibility for a physician to keep a 72 year-old woman on high doses of testosterone for the condition of osteoporosis.

Christine

I don't often find the time to visit the forum. When I do there is always something of interest, which leads me to Christine's response to Sunny. I could not agree more with Christine's assessment of a physician who keeps a 72 year old woman on high doses of testosterone for the condition of osteoporosis. It's crazy!

I am 76 and have been following Christine's program, advice with her materials since I have been 70 and became symptomatic with a uterine prolapse. It works for me and living in the posture helped me to quickly recover with a little PT from a back injury last year when moving heavy items.

I would like you to know I have osteoporosis and refused any medication my new doctor recommended. Instead my choice is a plant based diet which eliminates dairy and cultured drinks, especially Kefir,(which I have learned to make) and of course, exercise. My bones have improved and I am curious to see the results with my next bone scan. After stopping dairy for 1 year a friend of mine after having his second bone scan was told there was an amazing improvement in his bones. It was actually questionable that he has osteoporosis. I have to do some more research on dairy and osteoporosis. From what I have been told there is a higher instance of osteoporosis in dairy areas. This goes contrary to everything I was brought up with "drink your milk." Christine, thank you for your amazing work!

Thanks Christine for that important information. Taking hormones well past menopause in the interest of bone health has been known for a long time to be a risk not worth taking. It's too bad that our doctors aren't the ones telling us what we need to know. And I think this happens even more with the elderly, who are in less of a position to do their own research. My own mom was kept on Premarin until a very advanced age, until I suggested she question this with her doctor, and wham - she was taken off right away. - Surviving

Thank you Christine once again for your wisdom, and thank you NFP for your thoughts on the link of dairy and osteoporosis. I had done much research before cutting our dairy, and had read very similar data on the subject. I have been without dairy for over a year now and haven't felt better.

Still seeing those Premarin commercial on pretty much a daily basis on TV, and I cringe every time I see one. I want to shout at the television, "Save your money and stick some honey up there!"

Thank you everyone for your comments. I feel I have to say a bit more about my osteoporosis. I was first diagnosed in mid 1990s and already was at high risk of fracture. I take a lot of responsibility for my health and am always researching. I am a strong advocate for complementary medicine and alternative treatments and will always try these approaches before any hormones/drugs. I pay a lot of attention to diet and avoid all meat except fish and seafood, I also avoid eggs. I've been dairy free for years and use rice milk as a substitute. I eat plenty of sunflower seeds and almonds every day. I buy mainly organic produce. I tried everything natural for my osteoporosis without any effect. I also worked on my stress levels as I cam to realise that mental/emotional stress could be a sig. factor in bone density loss. I went to exercise classes 3 times a week working with weights at the Dept of Human Movement at a local university. Result: Permanent damage to my wrists plus at the end of a year my bone density was worse - about the degree of loss you would expect if you had done nothing. I then devised my own isometric exercises but again there was no improvement. About a year ago I went back over all my results from osteoporosis tests (urine tests) and bone densitometry. I suddenly realised that my bone density had been steadily improving over the previous 4 years since I started on a particular regime. I had lost sight of this amongst the myriad of things I had been doing. This package included a calcium supplement called Reparen which is very gentle on the system (Dysa a friend of mine who like you couldn't tolerate most calcium supplements has no probs with this and it is very well absorbed) , 5000iu of Vit D daily, the testosterone/DHEA cream (10mg testosterone and 40mg DHEA), Silica gel taken orally, Zinc. I have been over the moon about the improvement in my bone density after watching it get worse and worse for so long despite my best efforts. And this was with minimal exercise as I also have severe psoriatic arthritis which now limits my ability to exercise. The arthritis also adversely affects bone density so had double whammy. I am pretty good with my pendulum dowsing and so I dowsed causes of the vaginal bleeding and I did get that the testosterone/DHEA cream was the culprit but I am not always right so thought that I should prob check out medically as well. I don't understand that my DHEA level is still very low (tho in normal range) in spite of using the cream. Anyway something about this package has obviously worked for me. I need to dowse further!

My chest hurts after a session of fire breathing. Is that normal? It disappears after a while. i am attempting fire breathing twice daily. Am i doing it wrong. I wonder. I have watched the dictionary of movements and read the instructions in Christine's book carefully.

I haven't experienced chest pain with firebreathing, although I can get quite winded in a longer session of it. Maybe try it out on all fours first keeping a long line from your head to tailbone, and then work up to the standing position. That's how I did it, and it worked really well for me. And, also make sure you are breathing deeply into your lower belly on the in breath, really expanding you belly.
Hope that helps some.

P.S. Do you have a heart condition? Firebreathing is a pretty intense exercise, so i wouldn't want to be advising anyone what to do in that case.

If that isn't the case, I was also thinking that we have been pretty much trained to be shallow breathers our whole lives, and with the whole woman breathing we are expanding and using more of our chest muscles, fascia, etc, so maybe that would cause some discomfort for you.

I don't have a heart condition. i have not been very physically active for a while and that may account for the discomfort i feel. I think it is the squeezing of the abdomen in the out breath which may be causing a sense of discomfort in that region. Will work up to it gradually.

KC, we have no way to know if you are doing it correctly or not, but chest pain with firebreathing is not something I can recall ever reading about here. Remember this is not a medical site and we are not qualified to say what might be the cause of this discomfort. - Surviving

I do not have a heart condition. I do have acid reflex though. in any case I will get this checked out before following through .

I'd say that you should be sure to firebreathe on an empty stomach, as Christine states. - Surviving

I think that may be the problem. Thanks.

Hi Dysa,
I hope you do a lot of research before your final Descision. Christine does explain all the surgeries and their drawbacks in her book, and the vaginal closure has complications of its own. The doctors can make it all sound so scary and immediate, but as far as I am concerned, you have time to do some more research. Maybe even booking a consult with Christine to see what she has to say for your particular situation.
I think back to when I found my profound uterine prolapse, and if I had gone to the doctorin the state I was in back then, I probably wouldn't have a uterus right now. The whole woman work helped me get beyond that.
But, we must each make our own informed Descision for ourselves.

I agree with AG that you should schedule a consult with Christine. We of the Forum cannot possibly advise you on this. But it just doesn't add up. You started out this thread with a cystocele bulge and some bleeding. Now your gyn thinks your pelvic organs are a disaster area and wants to perform one of the most radical pelvic organ procedures there is! Something wrong with this picture, if you ask me. Do YOU feel, in your heart of hearts, that you need your vagina sewn shut? Do you know how many of us are walking around with a significant cystocele and managing just fine? Please take this slowly, Dysa, do your homework. Do not let the docs scare you. - Surviving

This is just to let you know that what I was experiencing was due to a muscle strain. Though earlier I was exercising vigorously in the gym and then switched to Yoga I lapsed into doing nothing more then an occasional walk and KEGELS . So now even holding the whole woman posture challenges my muscles. It is getting to feel a little more normal now.I am following Christine's First Aid for prolapse DVD of exercises ,making progress as I go along. I will also walk everyday in Whole woman posture so that I regain some muscle strength.

Good to hear, Kittu. Sounds like you are off to a great start on your journey with whole woman. The one thing we all have to keep reminding ourselves, is that this is a process and it does take time to undo all our bad habits. We are all so lucky that Christine has found the good habits to replace them!