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howdidthishappen
December 10, 2006 - 11:11am
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interesting
i realize this was originally from a while back but i have long used acunpunture and herbs and when i spoke with my acupuncturist this week, he immediately put me on a different formula and will move the point work somewhat. he is quite optimistic that this will help. i certainly feel that it can't hurt and like the feeling of doing all these proactive things. we'll see how it goes and i will let people know.
susan
AnneKane
December 13, 2006 - 10:12pm
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reply from my friend
hi i wrote to my friend to ask her could she give me more detail's recently and this is her reply which she said i could share -
"I didn't forget about your question on the Prolapse, I wanted to check
the file we had on the patient at clinic to see what points we used on her,
as well as on my file to see what points I used on me.
For myself, my Prolapse I would say was mild to moderate, and I have had probs with it for about 10 years, but it was started fairly quickly after
my first child and then kind of stayed the same for many years never getting worse or better.
I also had lots of KD def probs as well, with infertility,
and Polycystic ovarian syndrome.
I used:
SP-6, KD-3, KD-6, DU-20, REN-6, REN-4, ST-36, LV-3,
ON back tx Bl-17, Bl-18, BL-20, BL-23, KD-3 often connected with BL-60
For herb formulas I took
Gui Pi Tang and Jin Kui Shen Qi Wan
I took these for about 2 months and then switched the Gui Pi Tang to Fu Zi
Li Zhong Wan and am still on this one and the Jin Kui Shen Qi Wan.
I take
breaks from them for a few weeks every now and again to see if my body has
adjusted yet, but every time I go off them the symptoms reoccur.
Our Patient at the clinic, had a severe case, it was really, really
protruding, she is in her late 60's and has had it for about 6 yrs.
For
points we did
SP-6, KD-3, DU-20, REN-6, REN-5, REN-4, REN-12, ST-36, LV-3, GB-28
And for herbs she is taking
Bu Zhong Yi Qi Tang, and Da Bu Yuan Jian
She reacted very quickly and had a noticeable improvement in about 3
treatments, she is still coming for treatments and has been there for about
3 months.
But she said that a lot of it has retracted, she cant feel it on
the outside when she sits anymore, but it is still protruding a bit.
Hope this helps."
To clarify the above prescription and herb;s are very much tailored to those two individual's with some being generic lifting type point's - but there are also many other interesting prolapse point's that i'm collating every time i study.
But had i found the magical formula (from a tcm perspecive) you'd all know it by now!
Along-side this i am checking out Japenese acupuncture, very different (anyone in boston area i would recommend checking out Kiiko Matsumoto a female japenese master acupuncturist).
Secondly i asked my new supervisor a bejing professor about prolapse, had he had any cases and did they imporove. He said they reversed. I said - "they were very mild ones then?" and he replied no some were severe. I'm not due to have him supervise my classes again till new year but will pick his brain then and report back.
Finally it's week 16 of my qi gong training - nothing to report with my 'cele, sorry to say.
Best wishes everyone over xmas - i'm off to Cuba. Very excited. For the new pple here - if you read over my first post's you would imagine i could never be excited by anything again, many of us get those feeling's in the beggining, ever to a severe degree as i did. It passes.
xx
Anne - Helen
howdidthishappen
December 15, 2006 - 2:58pm
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interesting
my acupuncurist gave me one of the same herb combinations -- bu zhong yi qi tang. i've only had two treatments since the diagnosis and now he's away for a couple of weeks, but they will continue once the new year is here.
my acunpunturist was trained primarily in japan and i've used him for a long long while. he did tell me there were some more intense points that could be used but i'm not sure i want to go there at this point, which i told him. we'll see. i want to see how the formula works along with other, less deep points in tandem with christine's work and the pelvic floor pt that i'm doing.
i tend to have a very extreme nature and i can see myself going there with this...the idea of taking things in pieces or doing it slowly sort of scares me but then i also know i can go into such an extreme cycle that i will peter out with all the work and that will leave me...nowhere. i guess i worry somehow that i have a window of opportunity for improvement and if i blow it now, i screw it up permanently. probably not realistic?
susan
louiseds
December 30, 2006 - 3:18am
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Your acupuncturist's other client
Hi Ann-Helen
That's great to hear. I wonder what would happen if your acupuncturist's other client with the half-recovered serious prolapses tried using Wholewoman posture as well? Could you try and get the acupuncturist to pass on the Wholewoman URL to this other woman? She would possibly progress further again with her recovery.
Have a great time in Cuba. Tango till you drop!
Cheers
Louise