When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
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Aging gracefully
June 4, 2016 - 5:08pm
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Hi kiwi,
Hi kiwi,
As with any of Christine's exercise programs, it is really up to you how often you should do them. Basically, just paying attention to how your body feels. And, keep working on that posture; it is really the key to all of this.
Periods are just a big pain, aren't they. I always have my worst symptoms during the period time. I have noticed too that I tend to retain quite a bit of fluid in my body right before my period, and then woosh, I pee quite often right upon starting my period. The good thing about periods is that they end, and it doesn't take much to get back on track with the whole woman work.
Surviving60
June 4, 2016 - 6:35pm
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Kiwi
I would say that probably an ideal birth would be a gentle, natural birth on hands and knees with minimal or no intervention. Very few of us are strong enough to hold a deep squat without collapsing the spine; and just think how tiring childbirth can be, especially if it is prolonged.
Regarding frequency of exercises, I agree with AG - that is up to you. Be sure you are learning that posture and practicing it as you go throughout your day - standing, sitting, walking, lifting. We are doing the WW work all day long - no one is too busy for that! Keep telling yourself that you are exercising all the time, so you don't have to worry when your day gets away from you and you feel like you've missed a workout. - Surviving
kiwi274
June 4, 2016 - 7:46pm
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Thank you both!
Thank you both!
And yes I agree, periods are a huge pain!
I guess I should clarify though, I don't just mean retaining extra fluid, but actual leaks during exercise. So say, for example, normally I can do 25 jumping jacks before springing a leak, but right before or during my period I can only do 5 before leaking. So is that kind of incontinence just irreparable if it's literally hormone related?
Also, interesting you said hands and knees for birthing--that is the position I delivered my first (and only) baby in. I was afraid that might have been bad, but it was what was most comfortable for me. (I had a home birth attended by 2 midwives.)
Does a water birth help prevent prolapse in any way, or put less stress on things? Or is that just more for pain management?
everhopeful
June 5, 2016 - 12:18am
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Hi Kiwi
I am now in my sixties but was very active and sporty,personal trainer encouraged rowing machine for me ,etc. However I had never heard about Prolapse or thought about incontinence,never entered my world UNTIL,trying to strenthen my bones after menopause. I did lots of exercise but especuslly 50 daily jumps on mini trampoline,then I had a prolapse and my life has changed . I would be very sure that u r in whole woman posture when doing those jumping jacks and any jumping or lifting movements. It will save any damage regarding prolapse and probably help with leaking too. Unnatural exersise was literally my downfall! I would like to warn others and save them ,stick to walking !
Surviving60
June 5, 2016 - 2:12am
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Kiwi
Running and jumping can in fact be very beneficial for prolapse, once you have mastered Whole Woman posture and know how to do them the right way. Until that time, I would agree with Everhopeful, stay on the low-impact side and really fine-tune that posture. As the book states, avoid exercises where you are holding your body at an obtuse angle. Acute body angles keep the organs pinned.
Christine's granddaughter came into the world with a water birth! You can read their story here:
https://wholewoman.com/library/?p=20
- Surviving
kiwi274
June 5, 2016 - 10:27am
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Ah! I'm realizing more and
Ah! I'm realizing more and more that personal trainers and group fitness instructors really aren't qualified to be dispensing exercise advice to women. I don't say that to be mean, I just feel like their training/education/knowledge is often lacking. I know they are probably not purposefully spreading misinformation or bad advice, but I think that is probably often the case :(
kiwi274
June 5, 2016 - 10:34am
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Aww! Thanks for sharing the
Aww! Thanks for sharing the link--I love to read birth stories :)
That makes me SO happy to hear that running and jumping can actually be beneficial!!!! Because (as I'm sure you know)--conventional advice from PTs and doctors is to absolutely stop those activities. But I love to run and jump, and I want to be able to run and jump and play with my kid(s) as they grow, you know.
Anyway--can you help me better understand what you mean by obtuse and acute angles? I had to google them to remember what the terms meant from a geometry point of view, but I'm having a hard time translating that into form during exercise. Can you give me an example of an exercise that puts the body in an obtuse angle?
Do I need to buy the book for a better description of WW posture? I think the basics are belly relaxed, shoulders down, upper back broad and flat, chin slightly tucked..? I'm honestly not sure if I'm doing it correctly. And unfortunately, I can tell I've lost so much shoulder flexibility and my shoulders are so rounded forward now after 1+ year of hours upon hours of breastfeeding in a slouched position :( I'm not sure how to improve my shoulder flexibility/position.
Surviving60
June 5, 2016 - 11:02am
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Body angles
Anything that places the body at a greater-than 90-degree angle, flattens the lumbar curve and strains the pelvic organs in a way that you can clearly feel. Two examples would be any type of crunches, and a machine like a recumbent bike that has you leaning back while exerting yourself.
I personally think everyone should have the book, but then again, when I was starting out, there was the book, the DVD, and the baton. You could buy them in a bundle or you could buy them separately. Now, the choices are dizzying and a bit confusing. I worked solely from the book for about my entire first year. - Surviving