When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
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Aging gracefully
May 27, 2017 - 7:30pm
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Hi sulfaprob,
Hi sulfaprob,
I hate to leave this post unanswered, but I really wouldn't know what to tell you. You may want to book a consult with Christine as she may have more insight into what you could possibly do next.
Best wishes to you.
healing with passion
May 29, 2017 - 9:42am
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good morningSulfaprob
after reading about your issues, especially the nerve problems, I agree with "aging gracefully" that a consult with Christine might help..............for the burning, I would suggest organic coconut oil. put some on your labia a few times a day......... that is
what I use but you decide. you can cook with it, so if it does not help with the burns at least you have some other use for it. I am new to this so I do not have much knowledge but a few of the gals that are on here are so knowledgeable.
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Aging gracefully
May 29, 2017 - 2:49pm
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I don't think we are really
I don't think we are really qualified to suggest anything for a chemical burn. I had Ideas running through my head also, but just don't feel comfortable making them. Best left to someone who would know rather than guessing through it.
kbay16
May 29, 2017 - 5:30pm
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Chemical Burn
Check this website published by the National Vulvodynia Association. I am not sure if this is relevant to you, but you may find it helpful.
https://www.nva.org/what-is-vulvodynia/
and
https://www.nva.org/what-is-vulvodynia/
healing with passion
May 30, 2017 - 12:27pm
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Burn and nerve damage
this is for sulfaprob. I was wondering how you are doing and feeling?
a couple of us have suggested some things to soothe the burn but I wonder what you are doing with the nerve damage?
healing with passion
May 31, 2017 - 11:40am
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hysteropexy
Hello women with prolapse,
a friend of mine who lives in California told me that some women there get what is known as hysteropexy...........where they suture the uterus back up where it belongs. I thanked her for the advice but then thought to myself, it will weaken again. what are your thoughts?
Aging gracefully
May 31, 2017 - 11:54am
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This is an older post from
This is an older post from Christine, but I still think it applies:
https://www.wholewoman.com/forum/node/2797
Typing key words into the search can help you find information on subjects you may be curious about.
healing with passion
May 31, 2017 - 12:14pm
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Absolutly
Hello AG,
thank you so much. I sent that information to my friend in Calif.so she could read it. I was wondering, if I get my Uterus back where it belongs, how will it stay there since my ligaments are weak? I walked this am and my cervix is rearing it's ugly head, but with the WW posture I am sure I will get better..........
reading your posts is so wonderful ...........TY
Aging gracefully
May 31, 2017 - 12:23pm
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To read more about the
To read more about the different surgeries, you can look in Christine's work. She discusses them very thoroughly.
Throw in some jiggling and firebreathing several times a day, along with the whole woman walking. That really helps over time with a stubborn uterus.
healing with passion
June 1, 2017 - 8:11am
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jiggling
Thank you AG for the help. I do not know what jiggling is so I looked in the blue ww book and could not find it. can you give me any help on how to do it? TY
Surviving60
June 1, 2017 - 10:34am
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jiggling
The idea of WW posture is to get the organs to settle into the lower belly, away from the opening. The term "jiggling" was coined by one of our original practitioners and moderators, Louise. It doesn't matter how you do it; if you understand the purpose, something will come naturally. I just bend forward and jiggle the bottom half of my body (for me, it's like very fast running steps but my feet don't leave the ground), sometimes with a little belly massage at the same time. Just think of working your organs into the belly......then try to keep that dynamic going when you stand up. - Surviving
healing with passion
June 2, 2017 - 7:38am
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TY
DEAR S60
thank you for the explanation.. I get what you mean and will try it. I think I am going to have to use caps again as I have a hard time seeing this with my cataracts( that the dr says is not ready for surgery yet) ok off to jiggle
Surviving60
June 2, 2017 - 9:12am
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healing with passion
Unless you are working on a very small device, and/or in very poor light, I am surprised that your doctor says your cataracts aren't "ready" for surgery yet.....given the problems you are having. Perhaps there are other issues - I'm only expressing an opinion here. I have cataracts myself. - Surviving
ventadorn
April 18, 2018 - 4:42am
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hysteropexy
Hi! I know we're against surgery here, but only the other day a nurse said to me that I ought to consider a hysteropexy. Although I don't want surgery - which is why I'm here, of course - I don't reject things until I know what they are, so I looked it up and then remembered reading on here about sewing the uterus or vagina to the back of the body being a stupid idea as it pulls everything into the wrong angle. That's called sacro or spinal hysteropexy. But, I found one diagram somewhere or other, showing sutures from the front of the uterus to the abdomen. Well, the uterus IS at the front of the body when in its normal position, as women stick out in front when they're pregnant, so if there was going to be any surgery at all, I had to ask why they don't stitch the womb to the front as that's the only thing that makes any sense to me. I know there might be something on this somewhere here but I haven't been able to find it. Does anybody here know WHY they thought of going to the back of the body and not the front, and do you know anything about stitching it to the front?
By the way, I watched a video of hysteropexy using mesh where they actually admit that the flesh grows into it and it gets embedded, as if that's a bonus! I can't believe some things can pass for science, sometimes, because that just screams alarm-bells, to me: don't put any foreign object into a body that can't come out if it goes wrong!
Christine
April 18, 2018 - 7:56am
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uterine suspension
Hi Ventadorn,
Shortening the round ligaments of the uterus (a relatively uncomplicated surgery that is performed on the abdominal wall, not vagina) used to be done routinely. Twenty years ago when I was researching my book, Saving the Whole Woman (which is out-of-print at the moment), I came across commentary in the literature that cadavers of elderly women sometimes showed evidence of this surgery. In other words, these women still had their uterus attached to the front and they were old, so obviously the surgery was successful. Maybe it worked too well? From my perspective, like you, I believe it is the only prolapse surgery that makes the least bit of sense.
However, there are problems with it. The uterus is very mobile and when it is held firmly in place the cervix tends to stretch. Cervical cells are able to stretch much more than those in the body of the uterus, due to the fact that the “neck” of the uterus must stretch the most during birth. In this case, you would have intractable uterine prolapse that would not budge. I have seen pictures of these stretched cervixes at hysterectomy, and they are exceedingly long.
The other problem noted is that sometimes the surgical opening created in the peritoneum to draw the round ligament of the uterus through to the front can widen over time, creating a gap for the small bowel to herniate through. I imagine chronic pain might also be a risk, since the genitofemoral nerve runs the same course through the inguinal canal as the round ligament.
Using the so-called “uterosacral ligaments” (which are really bands of stretchy fascia) at the back of the body is much less successful and associated with many more problems. Nerve vessels, blood vessels and the ureters coming down from the kidneys are embedded in these “ligaments”, making this surgery all the more risky.
There is very little real science in the practice of gynecology.
Christine