Not knowing what to do now - surgery or not!

Hi Surviving, thank you for your reply. What you say about surgery not helping in any way is how I feel in my guts plus all the research I have done around surgery doesn't look very positive. I think I just needed someone to confirm what I feel. I have been using Christine's book and dvds over the years and this is why I have managed my prolapse for so long and yoga has helped tremendously plus Fire breaths and other techniques. Sometimes the prolapse is good at other times bad but I think thats the nature of prolapse. Your words have helped me to make a decision, im going to get off the surgery track and continue as I am. As you say can experiment more with lovemaking, too much of a risk to have surgery which could make lovemaking painful. Also I am not incontinent and I have spoken to women who have become incontinent after having surgery for prolapse. Too many risks will stay as I am and continue to manage prolapse myself. Thank you again for your help. I am so glad this forum is here. Liminalpool

Yes iv thought about not being able to go back after surgery quite a lot Surviving and I know the chance of prolapse happening again is high. Another problem I have that was making me think of surgery is that the prolapse sometimes bulges out of the vagina, its so low that I feel it will never completely go back which I dont think it will, however when I do fire breath it goes back up again. Wish I could get it stay up more often though! As you say good posture also helps. I think its the bladder that bulges slightly out of the vagina because when I have a partial or full bladder it all stays up. Its interesting to know that we loose the ability to affect the organs positions with surgery I didn't know that. Another reason to steer clear of surgery.

Also really interesting information about using a pessary something else I didn't know. Thats probably why I much prefer to try to not to use it as I feel more in control. Thank you so much for this information and your help. Liminalpool

Hi Typicalme, Thanks for your advice. I fully agree I would never contemplate mesh and the consultant who I saw on Thursday would not touch mesh either. Regarding what kind of surgery they were talking about to begin with (around 6 years back) the first consultant who I saw wanted to do a hysterectomy. He said 'Most women who have prolapse like yourself have a hysterectomy and dont worry if any damage is caused to the bladder during the operation I can put that right too!!!' I couldnt believe what I was hearing, I told him I didnt want the operation so he fitted me with a pessary which feel out when I passed a stool. I was feeling depressed about it all. However I have always honoured my body and have researched past for problems I have had and through changing my life style have sorted them out myself to avoid medication. But surgery is a different matter. So I began looking into research on prolapse and found Christine's site which has helped so much alongside my yoga practice. But I was still unsure about surgery and wanted to look into all the options open to me and I also wanted to ask about seeing a Physiotherapist to get further help and advise. So I made an appointment insisting I see a different Gynaecologist after the bad experience with the first one. I had been making a journal about the prolapse and had lots of information on it from Christine Kent's book. I took this journal with me to my appointment. I talked to the Gynaecologist and showed him the journal he seemed really annoyed. I took no notice of his annoyance and asked him lots of questions some of which he did not know the answer, which is ok but he didn't offer to look into and try to find out the answers. In the end he said 'You have come to see me to decide if you want to have surgery or not, if you want answers to these questions you need to see the Physiotherapist so what do you want to do?' I said I wanted to do more research before deciding if I wanted surgery as it was a big decision and that I would take an appointment to see the Physiotherapist. I also told him that I thought he would have been able to answer my questions. I went away feeling quite angry. However one good thing I got out of this session was an appointment with the physiotherapist. When I saw the Physiotherapist she told me to steer clear of surgery if at all possible to keep it as a last option and we worked together. I showed her my journal and she was interested in Christine's research and she helped me and gave me a lot of support. Since then I have been managing prolapse ok but then it started affecting my sex life this was about a couple of years back but its gotten worse over time. I saw a different consultant a year or so back about this and he was completely different to the other two he tried to answer all my questions, he gave me lots of information to read on Sacrospinous Fixation, Anterior Vaginal Repair etc. he was very considerate and agreed with me that surgery should only be a last option. He is the same Gynaecologist who I saw this Thursday. At my appointment he suggested that I don't have surgery at the moment as im doing so well with managing it myself and he was really interested in my questions and started to even question what he has learned. Iv asked if I can stay in the system (mainly so I can keep him as my consultant) just in case things get a lot worse. So he is sending me another appointment in 6 months time. In my guts I really feel surgery would not be good. Thanks again for your advice. Liminalpool

Hi Surviving, the more im looking into research the more I am inclined to agree with you. But at the same time I dont know how bad the prolapse could get, what if it was right outside the body making it difficult to walk? I dont know its the unknown so im trying to keep my options open. Hence staying in the system as I have put in the post replying to Typicalme. However just reading the process of surgery for prolapse sounds worrying especially as I have studied the body through my yoga trainign where I have discovered that so much is unknown about the body. Also they cut into fascia which affects the nervous system, in fact everything in connected to everything else so having surgery for anything (let alone in such a sensitive part of the body) can cause so many disturbances and problems for the whole body. So good to talk about this with you. Liminalpool

Hi Sewlady2 the book sounds interesting will have a look at this. Using a pessary during sex didnt work at all for us as it made sex uncomfortable, so we only tried it once. I havn't tried any of the essential oils so thanks for this something I can try. I have heard that oil pulling can improve your overall health. What kind of difference did you feel with the prolapse through oil pulling?

Hi SewLady2 it sounds wonderful how all of what you are doing is working for you. I have ordered the book it looks interesting and will get some of the oil you have mentioned. Will let you know my thoughts on the book once iv read it and how I get on with the oils and how this affects my own sex life. Its so good to talk to you as not many people mention sex in relation to prolapse. Its good to hear such positive results you are having, with both your prolapse receding and incredible sex!

SewLady2 also I can imagine massage with the oils is something that can enhance lovemaking. With my own Yoga Practice I sometimes self massage which is wonderful but havn't used oils at all. So will be wonderful to try massage using the oils with my husband!