do you all really not drink alcohol?

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I have only ever drank socially - and have been avoiding it since prolapse- even at my sisters engagement party-
but damned if I don't miss it.
I don't know - going out for a drink with my girlfriends just isn't as fun if I don't have the drink.
and I also enjoy a nice glass of wine if I am out with my husband- Like our anniversary dinner.
So I guess I am asking - is special occasion drinking an indulgence that is probably ok maybe every other month?

Why exactly should alcohol be avoided?

Who said that? In the book I talk about limiting alcohol. I love red wine, but do respect it and understand that it is toxic in large amounts.

I was wondering about this, too.
Off for a sip of red wine then (it is already dinnertime here)!

Rekaxxx

I am still nursing so only drink really occasionally when I am pretty sure my little one wont need to nurse within the next few hours. However, I definitely plan to partake of both beer and wine in the not too distant future!!

Hi Alemama:

I have never been a big drinker and usually stick to one to two drinks when I do. My fear is becoming dehydrated. I fear if I become dehydrated that it will cause me to be constipated. I just drink a lot of water on the occasions that I do drink.

Not to mention, hang-overs suck! lol

- Lilly Anne

I have (when not pg) half a glass of wine with fri night dinner and sat dinner. and once in a while at weddings and such I'll have a sip of OJ and vodka.

I really limit my alcohol intake since my brush with neuralgia. alcohol, as I understand it, is a nerve irritant and I live in fear of the neuralgia returning.

I'd like to ask a question regarding this topic. During the week, I usually have 1 glass of white wine with dinner. But on the weekends, with friends or out to dinner, I'll usually have 2 or sometimes 3 glasses (depending what is being celebrated). My own little 'not scientific' study is that I usually feel my uterine prolapse more on the weekends than during the week. Maybe it's because I'm on my feet all weekend, and have a desk job during the week? Or could it be the alcohol in my bloodstream, going thru my entire body including my uterus? Christine, do you have a theory regarding this? I would love to hear your opinion. Thank you.
Goldfinch

Hi Goldfinch1

If you scroll down to the bottom of this thread you'll. see Christine's response was the first (funny way the posts are displayed)! Christine is away at the moment but will be back in a couple of days, so she may post again then.

Maybe you just feel a little more relaxed and less disciplined at weekends? I agree that moderation is the key. It is a recreational drug after all, albeit legal.

We have guidelines for safe drinking levels in Australia. NDARC guidelines . Here's another one with pictures, 'http://www.dao.health.wa.gov.au/Publications/tabid/99/DMXModule/427/Defa...' target = '_blank'>Safe drinking illustrated . Sorry, couldn't get the Hyperlink thingy to work! There are currently moves afoot to amend the 'safe' level for men down to 2 standard drinks per day. Women will remain unchanged, I think.

I just try to stick to these guidelines, having one glass of wine or a beer in the evening with a meal, and I often have one or two nights a week when I don't drink alcohol at all. My heavier drinking days went out the window before pregnancy, breastfeeding and being responsible for little children. I just don't think they go together. History is littered with death and damage to little kids when Mum and Dad were away with the beer fairies.

Also I would rather not unnecessarily fatten the wallets of any drug manufacturer, whether legal or illegal, pharmaceutical or recreational. Nor do I wish to subsidise the Government's coffers any more than I need to.

However, this week I will keep some brain cells on the job monitoring what my nether regions are doing.

Actually I am on a really strict anti-candida diet this week which leaves me consuming water and fresh natural yoghurt, no gluten or yeast foods, no fermented or brewed foods, nothing that could conceivably contain any moulds or fungi or antibiotics, no sugars (except what's in veges), no fruit, no nuts or seeds, no tea or coffee, So that means no alcoholic drinks. I just wander round all day trying to keep my mind on what I am doing and looking forward to more rice, veges and salad without dressing, whimpering softly to myself, while all round me the family are indulging in all the other wonderful foods God gave us. Today is day four. Grrrr ...

I don't think it is making my prolapses any different at all, but hopefully it will put the last nail in the coffin for this horrible thing that has taken over my sex bits. (I have already taken a single capsule pharmaceutical thrush-bomb, oral probiotics course in progress and vaginal probiotics.) The diet has to finish knocking it off.

Has anybody else done this diet. For how long?

Cheers

Louise

I don't feel that I abuse wine - the French have a glass everyday with their dinner, as do I. There are weekends when for some reason (celebrating a birthday, going to a wedding) I might have 2 or at the most 3. At 58 I have no small children to worry about. It was just a thought that I had. It's funny how things are sometimes interconnected in ways we don't realize - which is why I asked the question on this post. Maybe I'll take my un-scientific test a bit further and give it up for a week or 2 and see how the prolapse feels.....

Hi Goldfinch

I wasn't implying that you drink too much. At our age it is really nice to be able to enjoy the company of our adult offspring without actually being responsible for them!;-)

Keep us posted on your unscientific test.

Cheers

Louise

Hi Louise,

Some years ago I was put on that Candida diet you spoke of. At times I found it really tough - mainly like you said, when out with friends who were eating all those yummy things I couldn't have. But I got used to it and stuck to it for quite a long time. I'd never felt so good and my overall health was the best its ever been.

I still have my list of what I could and couldn't eat. I've listed a few of the 'do eats' that might help with meal ideas:

soy milk (unsweetened), oat milk, coconut milk, brown rice milk, goats milk

brown rice, wild rice, whole grain or wholemeal pastas, rice noodles

wholemeal yeast-free pita bread, ryvitas, vita-wheats, rice cakes, corn cakes (great with avocado on top), yeast-free wholemeal soda bread, wholemeal tortillas

scones and pancakes using wholemeal flour, oatcakes

shredded wheat, rice puffs (great with natural yoghurt on top for breakfast), homemade, sugar-free muesli

dairy free unhydronated margarine, other nut buters, sugar free jams (though not until fruit is allowed), home-made dips, home-made mayonnaise, home-made sour cream

some soy sauce brands (eg Braggs), oil dressings, lemon dressings, homemade strawberry topping, homemade sauces, brwon rice syrup, lemon juice

corn chips, nuts & seeds, popcorn, some chips (eg. Kettle), rice snacks

eggs, beans, lentils, vegetables, soy mince

cranberry juice, taheebo tea, brazilian herbal tea, black walnut leaf tea

millet, bulgar wheat, oats, corn (maize), barley, buckwheat, spelt, kamut, amoranth, quinoa

I drink one beer or glass of wine 3 or 4 nights per week and I am happier and healthier than when I never drank at all. I plan to drink even more when I become elderly and feeble, because at that point I am gonna just do what I want when I want and ignore anybody trying to lecture me or tell me fun stuff is bad for me. Heck if I make it to 90 I might reward myself by going back to a little herb now and then too. :-))

Love your attitude!! Kit

Hi AnneH

Well, my Dad died at 62, and my Mum is 95. If I wait until I am 90 to have a little herb regularly I might forget what it is. I might not last that long. I just believe in moderation in all things right now!.

Cheers

Louise

I am shocked!

....hahahahahahaha

a while back there was this ad, this old guy tasted Coke (or was it Pepsi?) for the first time and then starts doing all the things he never did before.

anyway, this conversation makes me think of that......maybe I shouldn't wait until I'm 90 to try some herb? lol
and here I thought you were all such GOOD influences on me!

Well, Sweet Gmom, all kidding aside…I wouldn’t encourage it for three reasons. (1) It’s not great for spiritual development, which you kinda need a mind for (2) Don’t ever do it around your kids…they are extremely perceptive and will know that mama has checked out and (3) Don’t smoke ANYTHING…lungs are so important – something we don’t always appreciate until we get older!

yeah, I know : )

Yeah, good advice all round.

We are teaching our children how to be good quality grownups every waking hour they see us doing stuff. We are also teaching them how to be responsible parents, auntie's and uncles. Hey, at the age of 95 my Mum is teaching me how to graciously age and survive in an aged care home. I am so proud of her, and hope I can do it half as well. I am sure I would/will go nuts, if I am not already!

On the other hand we need to teach our children that it is OK to check out every now and then and just go into neutral when they have no responsibilities. It is the only way to teach them moderation, and you don't have to get off ya face every time you have some weed, in the same way as you don't have to get off ya face every time you drink alcohol. Show me a parent who is a teetotaller and I'll show you their child who knows nothing about moderation. It is about not being in absolute control, just relative control.

I never smoked or drank when I was pregnant or breastfeeding or when we had little kids because they were a real handful and I didn't feel it was doing them justice or able to look after them properly (I am the original one pot screamer at the best of times!). Now they have grown up I like to check out occasionally, and it is only a few times a year, if I am honest.

And smoking is not the only way to have weed.

Cheers

Louise

I go for the heavy weight stuff. One can of Coors Light every evening. Don't need anymore than that - just something to take the edge of my day. Used to drink Gin and Tonic, but didn't care for the fuzzy head feeling. Beer seems to be gentler for the soul and of course "a little wine" for the tummy was recommended by the "Greatest Teacher."

sybille

Ah yes, nothing like a beer, Sybille.

I am the original one pot screamer. I love my light beer. Unfortunately my winemaker son is heavily into homebrewing, so the full strength variety arrives in our kitchen by the jugful each night. It needs to be drunk while fresh as he doesn't use preservative. I just use very small glasses. ;-)

Cheers

Louise